Training Videos

[juan_mol]

I just had this idea (don't know if it has been brought up before).

Right now tracks don't play back correctly if you update your game:( . That means that all the work that takes to make a track is useless once a new patch comers out. But why not make all training tracks videos.

If I remember correctly ED wanted to include the training tracks as videos in version 1.0 but Ubi said no because thay didn't want to pay for 2 CDs instead of one. But right now with all the online distribution thing in place ED can just host the videos for everyone to download.

Since the tracks for 1.1 are done it would just be a matter of recording the video and uploading it. Even if the files end up big, I wouldn't mind keeping my pc on downloading thru the night.

Maybe we can help, 5 or 6 persons can make the videos and ED just hosts them.

I really don't know if making the tracks videos is hard work, but isn't it worth it.:D

[Guest ruggbutt]

I have Ironhand's Strela Hunt mission converted to AVI, and it's 13 minutes long and will run 140mb in size. As soon as I'm done with the credits we'll be releasing it. It's a 1.01 mission. And you have no idea how time consuming it is to do this. I've already discussed doing the rest of Ironhand's tutorials.

[juan_mol]

That's what I feared.

I was thinking: If converting tracks to avis is so easy then why hasn't someone done it??

Guess the answer is: beacuse it isn't easy :icon_mrgr

I still think it would be a good idea, maybe ED will release 1.2 training videos instead of tracks (or both). That way we can safely patch up to 1.21 without breaking the trainings.

[Woodstock]

We would be gladly willing to host the videos as a mirror for ED.

[Guest ruggbutt]

I'm going to take you up on your offer Woodstock. :D

[Woodstock]

You´re welcome to do so anytime.

Just contact JaBoG32_Chrissi for upload instructions:

webmaster@virtual-jabog32.de

or

chrissi@virtual-jabog32.de

 

We are currently in the process of converting our own Basic Jet Training tracks into videos - so sorry, no capacity to help on that end...

[juan_mol]

See ED doesn't even need to worry about bandwith. There's always good people willing to host mirrors.

[Weta43]

A question:

If the reason the tracks don't work is because the game has changed (radar, seekers, flight-models, etc.) don't you risk having a video that plays, but shows techniques that worked in earlier versions and not in this ?

So you could master the technique perfectly as shown in the video (if it still has any bearing - radar changes 1.02 to 1.11) and still not be able to get away from that missile...(hold that lock, make that HOJ shot etc.)

?

I have a 1.1 track I made of me taking on a couple of AI tomcats and a video I made of that track. Yes the video still plays, but if I play the track I get shot down half way through. The reason my tracks from 1.1 don't play properly in 1.11 is that if I do the things in 1.11 to get away that I did in 1.1, I'll get hit... or I'll lose lock etc.

Just a thought...

[juan_mol]

That's a valid point Weta. Maybe some track tells you that you can fire a missile as 15nm and score a kill, then the game is patched and you have to fire at 10nm to score a kill. The training video does not reflect the reality of the game.

Still since the focus of lockon seems to be moving towards ground attack (su-25t and ka-50) I think most training videos will remain relevant.

Maybe those where you dodge missiles will be rendered useless (patches missiles will make missiles more or less effective and thus the tactics depicted will no longer apply) but the ones describing delivery procedures, navigation, etc will still be usefull.

[Weta43]

True

[juan_mol]

Well I think it's worth the effort. Even if after patches the videos are not 100% accurate it's still better than no training at all and definetly better than people going "the patch breaks the training missions, ED sucks, I demand you redo them all at once"