Kaktus29 Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 I would like to see an ejection speed limit that IF broken you will die if you eject.. like, normal jet fighters don't have any special equipment to help the pilot survive the air stream he hits into after ejection since most the speeds at which ejection happens is in the low sub-sonic regime (300-500 km/h) ..but if you eject at 900 mph or faster and in a normal jet fighter not Mig-31 which i know has some face protection especially because for this reason designed- the end result would be pilot dies.. while talking ejection, is there a limit at which altitude a pilot can eject? like, isn't there a problem for oxygen, or do pilots eject with oxygen tanks as well..and even then temperature problems could occur if one ejects at 15.000 meters ..its awfully cold there and it would take eternity to land with a parachute.. god knows where the air stream might take you.. you eject above Georgia and land in Moldovia )) p.s..: forgot almost to link this.. F-15 accident and ejection at high speeds..
Jona33 Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 Seat parachutes won't open until you,re below a certain altitude, somewhere around 15000 feet in DCS I think. Always remember. I don't have a clue what I'm doing
GGTharos Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 Ejection seats tend to come with an O2 bottle. Now, if your mask gets ripped off during ejection ... But I don't see the point of including this in the game - it has zero effect on game-play. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Kaktus29 Posted October 20, 2013 Author Posted October 20, 2013 aham, but in real life is it also like that.. like if you eject at 50.000 feet you will free-fall until 15.000 feet? cuz if the parachute opens just like that those high-fliers especially 5th gen planes will be waiting awfully lot before they drop down..also freezing while at it..
GGTharos Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 Your parachute won't open right away. Ejection seats are usually somewhat sophisticated equipment meant to save your life, they're probably a bit better tuned than eject-ripcord :P [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
xaoslaad Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 What is this? Like back in the mid-west where they thought if we went on a train going more than 30 mph you'd automatically die? If I was in a plane on fire, just hit by a missile, and somehow miraculously survived, I'd think it shit that I have to wait to slow down or take my chances with exploding in a fireball. I'd want to eject and take my chances with the wind, helmet, seat, etc. I don't think anyone promised that you'd be ready to run a marathon after getting to the ground post ejection. Broken bones, scrapes, bruises, dislocations, even death are all probably a potential reality. Still better than EXPLODING. http://www.ejectionsite.com/ejectfaq.htm 780*1.6 mph=1248mph and he survived. Where did you come up with 900mph? And you have at least 1 SR-71 pilot ejecting at Mach 3 at 80,000 feet, though as the site/blurb below point out the force at that altitude is significantly less. So, without doing any research whatsoever you're asking for a silly and unrealistic feature of automatic death for ejecting at high speed. Why? "Although this seems to be an easy question, looks can be deceiving. 'How fast' is an imprecise question as it can be answered in several ways, for example: speed over ground, Knots Indicated Air Speed (KIAS), Knots Equivalent Air Speed (KEAS) and so forth. For example, some SR-71 pilots are rumored to have ejected at speeds of Mach 3 at 80,000 feet. This is a ground speed of around 2000 miles per hour, yet due to the thinner atmosphere at that altitude, the speed is closer to 400 KEAS. That is more like a 460 miles per hour. An F-15E pilot survived an ejection at a very small ground speed as he was traveling almost straight down in a spin, yet he was traveling at 780 MPH. This is over 1.6 times faster in equivalent air speed. Another difficulty with answering this question is determining the exact speed. Since most ejections occur in situations that are changing rapidly, it is difficult to get an exact speed of the ejection. Most ejection speeds are calculated values based on the recollections of the crewman, and what little evidence survives the aircraft's destruction. This can lead to very imprecise numbers. In the first known case of a man surviving a supersonic ejection, George Smith(IIRC will be verified) ejected from an F-100 Super Sabre in a dive. It was known that he ejected supersonically due to eyewitnesses who heard and saw the ejection from nearby based on the sounds of the sonic booms and the visual clues of the crash."
strikeeagle Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 An F-15E pilot survived an ejection at a very small ground speed as he was traveling almost straight down in a spin, yet he was traveling at 780 MPH. This is over 1.6 times faster in equivalent air speed That airplane was supersonic when they ejected and pointed nearly straight down...not in a spin. The shockwave killed the WSO. I was working the flight line in the 333rd when this accident happened. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Chris
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