jomar machado Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Is there some kind of a parachute brake like in the SU25t, to stop a landing F15C in a short track? The air brakes and power down RPM aren't enough... :helpsmilie:
GGTharos Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 In reality they have landing hooks for emergencies. But that's emergencies. Stopping the plane on landing requires correct landing procedure which leads to correct speed on touch-down as long as touching down on an appropriate place on the runway instead of landing on the middle or the end of it. Then there's aero-braking, which is why you keep the nose up in the air after landing. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
mvsgas Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Is there some kind of a parachute brake like in the SU25t, to stop a landing F15C in a short track? The air brakes and power down RPM aren't enough... :helpsmilie: At what speed are you landing? How far down the runway? To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
104th_Maverick Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 The F-15 is not designed to land on a short runway, in fact it requires a rather large runway indeed! The wheel brakes on the F-15 are tiny and as a result of the aircraft's weight it requires 1000s of feet to come to a stop. As GG mentioned there are procedures in place for emergencies but 'generally' speaking you 'should not' be operating an Eagle out of short airfields. A 7000ft runway is the shortest runway an F-15 can land at in RL, so don't look for any Turbo stop buttons in the sim ;) Good luck! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 104th Phoenix Wing Commander / Total Poser / Elitist / Hero / Chad www.104thPhoenix.com www.facebook.com/104thPhoenix My YouTube Channel
jomar machado Posted December 19, 2013 Author Posted December 19, 2013 It happened when I landed in the secondary track instead of the principal one. It was very short... Thanks... ;)
kontiuka Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 It happened when I landed in the secondary track instead of the principal one. It was very short... Thanks... ;) Full flaps as well. Some would say that it doesn't help but I've tested it and it does. I assume since you're flying the F-15, your copy of LockOn arrived?
Gate-5 Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Maybe your landing speed is to high?! I recently landed on the small civil airfield (~3000 feet long i think) in the city of kutaisi and had no problems stopping the plane. As was mentioned before, apply full flaps, airbrake and touch down at about 125 knots (150 knots during approach).
jomar machado Posted December 19, 2013 Author Posted December 19, 2013 My speed was ~250 but if the track were larger it would be OK. Next time I'll use the flaps after landing... kontiuka I bought my copy of LockOn in november 7 and it didn't arrived yet... But after 2 weeks I bought a second hand of LockOn at Amazom and it arrived 6 days after the deal... That's why I'm in the game. I'm still waiting for the response of this site why I didn't received my copy yet...
GGTharos Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 My speed was ~250 but if the track were larger it would be OK. Next time I'll use the flaps after landing... You're doing it wrong. Very wrong. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
sslechta Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Yeah, slow it down a bit on landing. The advice above is good. I also hit the deck at around 150. I use flaps and air brakes prior to that so when wheels touch, it's easy to get 125 and below when you apply wheel brakes. Steve (Slick) ThrustMaster T.Flight Hotas X | TrackIR5 Pro | EVGA GTX 1070 | Win10 64-bit Professional | Dell Precision 7920 Workstation | 1 TB SSD | 128 GB Memory | Dual Intel Xeon Platinum 2.0 GHz 16 Core Processors (64 Total w/HT ON) | 24" Dell Monitor
GGTharos Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Once the F-15 has AFM, you won't be slowing down so fast. The SFM's wheelbrakes are far too effective. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
sslechta Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Once the F-15 has AFM, you won't be slowing down so fast. The SFM's wheelbrakes are far too effective. Thanks for the heads-up on that. Steve (Slick) ThrustMaster T.Flight Hotas X | TrackIR5 Pro | EVGA GTX 1070 | Win10 64-bit Professional | Dell Precision 7920 Workstation | 1 TB SSD | 128 GB Memory | Dual Intel Xeon Platinum 2.0 GHz 16 Core Processors (64 Total w/HT ON) | 24" Dell Monitor
jomar machado Posted December 19, 2013 Author Posted December 19, 2013 I was misunderstood...normally I`m in 120-170 when I`m landing, but in this specific instance I was too fast and I would like to know if there`s some procedure in a case like this one...
sslechta Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 But in this specific instance I was too fast and I would like to know if there`s some procedure in a case like this one... Slow the plane down while circling for another pass at the airport. You don't want to touch down that fast. Steve (Slick) ThrustMaster T.Flight Hotas X | TrackIR5 Pro | EVGA GTX 1070 | Win10 64-bit Professional | Dell Precision 7920 Workstation | 1 TB SSD | 128 GB Memory | Dual Intel Xeon Platinum 2.0 GHz 16 Core Processors (64 Total w/HT ON) | 24" Dell Monitor
Gate-5 Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 If you're running out of runway apply full afterburner and go arround. If its to late for taking off again i suggest the use of the black and yellow striped handle :smilewink:.
GGTharos Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) The procedure is go around, as in, don't land. You're not flying a real plane, so you can do whatever you want, a real pilot flying in real life will not 'land at all costs', he will go around if there's the slightest hint of trouble to ensure a safe landing. If your altitude or airspeed are not correct and not fixable in a reasonable time frame (reasonable meaning it's very comfortable, not 'hit all airbrakes and barrel roll into the landing) then don't land. If you have only one chance at landing and you messed it up, too bad, you will have to touch down and suffer the consequences, but if you have more chances, why risk a bad landing? I was misunderstood...normally I`m in 120-170 when I`m landing, but in this specific instance I was too fast and I would like to know if there`s some procedure in a case like this one... Edited December 19, 2013 by GGTharos [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
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