RazerVon

My biggest issue with it all is when I found out that part of it involves a petty argument between CEOs and someone with control at ED decided "Oh, let's make this personal issue a corporate issue." WHY!? I'm not mad that my F-15E is in whatever state it's in. I'm mad that I have to download 4k textures for all assets AND optional liveries when the default texture size should be 10xx standard or lower so I can have a client that's <80GB in size, and 4k being an optional thing, but I made that clear in the relevant topic. I'm also mad that instead of working on that they're still not resolving this issue.

Razbam's reputation in the sim market is fine, they have multiple clients and always had. If Razbam is forced to pull out ED loses thousands of customers minimum, flat out. Cause I will never purchase a product from ED ever again nor will any of my sim friends or theirs', if Razbam is forced to leave. ED's reputation will be tainted. Razbam doesn't lose reputation regardless of outcome, only ED can. DCS is not the only player in town, and hasn't been in a decade.

No... it's Razbam's property. Also how does that clear ED's name? That'd make ED objectively a criminal organization if they seize peoples' property.

This is still a major issue. 180GB... why? IF they are liveries, separate them into their own packs. IF they are 4k textures, make that its own optional package too. This is ridiculous.

It works in every other game that has livery systems. War Thunder added this ability 2 - 3 years ago when they separated 720p, 1080p, and 1440/4k clients. Whichever client you download you download textures of liveries for that version. The lowest version is 17GB, and the highest is 106GB final install.

An argument FOR low-resolution necessary liveries, not an argument for the 14GB of F-14 liveries, nearly all of which are just minor changes. If you want me to see your cool Grim Reapers skin then I'll have to download that. If you're using a standard low-vis skin then I'd have the low-res version by default.

How do we know the Apache's laser designator can return beyond 8km?

No, allowing people not to have 64GB of liveries cannot cause cheating. If that caused cheating, then there's nothing below the liveries and is a game bug that needs fixing. Game bugs shouldn't be left in-game if they could cause such an issue.

I feel I should re-iterate important points in one post: 1- DCS's Liveries are mandatory, and take up over 64GB of storage irrelevant if you own modules or not. This is 1 - 20 games of storage just for liveries most people don't have access to let alone would use. 2- I support a removal of the mandatory nature of these specific liveries due to the immense size they take up. 2a- I support lower-resolution low-size versions of necessary liveries for all player-controllable aircraft, say ~3 liveries per aircraft. 3- I support an in-game accessible repository for these existing liveries where players can download specific liveries. 3a- There could be resolution options as well for storage concerns as well as loading. 4- This would reduce bandwidth use for DCS download services on updates & initial installs, Steam services, and of course the user. 4a- This would allow users to still see enemy liveries in lower-resolutions in order for things to remain fair. 5- Multiplayer servers could have a mandatory list of any-resolution liveries that aren't supplied by the initial install. If there is systems I am unaware of I apologize, these solutions can be amended for better compatibility with DCS systems. Honestly, it's trolling to claim these anti-cheating solutions are cheating. Everything I listed from my initial post to present prevents cheating.

Yes, and if you want to use those, then you "subscribe" to them in a repository. And it can be coded to where joining a multiplayer server forces you to download the liveries it supports into a temporary folder that you as the player can delete manually later if you wish. Servers can even have a mandatory/optional liveries line of code. Say for instance it forced people to download low-vis liveries, but have others as optional. Oh, and the server-forced ones can be the lower-resolution versions. Both things other games support. Multiplayer servers on some games even download mods for you upon joining. All these features BTW are from games released over 5 years ago. @SharpeXB Sir, you are making excuses for dated features that harm the experience for people that play more than one game in a month. I want DCS to improve and modernize. DLSS is coming this year hopefully; and a repository of liveries that players can use, as well as multiplayer servers mandate/recommend [support] would make the game less intensive & more efficient.

Dude, my suggestion is a standard feature of many modern games. "Just use up data you'll never use." is an anti-consumer take. Why should DCS be less consumer friendly than the competition?

Both, by having them uninstalled by default, but having a repository for downloading individual liveries.

Update: This is ridiculous.

Still wishing for this. 60GB of liveries is insane to force onto players.

Hmm... wish DCS would get this.