stonewolf393

The missiles are shown in test videos lofting at that, that seems reasonable for a missile wanting to get as high as possible. I just don't think it got the ass to do that though right now. Per JNelson it is possible to hit M4.3 on a launch but to get to the point of being able to do that (without a prestart of 40k at m1.2) you'll pretty much have to take 1 aim54 and full fuel load just to have the thrust to break into m1.3.

The issue here it seems is that the 54's are missing top end speed. Any missile I fire either maddog or not is missing about 300-400mph off of m4.3(A was shown to congress as hitting 4.3). The C was expected to hit m5. Right now all speeds from the 54 are quite slower than what i seems like they should be. I did that mission many times and got a couple kills when firing from 45000ft at m1.5 but both missiles capped out and m3. Running maddog shots at that alt and speed gave me about 3.7-3.8 or so. Regardless the 54-A was shown as hitting 4.3 so regardless we are losing about 400mph

Something I am curious about is the max speed in all of these tests. Has anyone been able to hit mach 4.3-5? https://www.google.com/books/edition/Department_of_Defense_Authorization_for/bM6eTY5nE1AC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=aim-54+"mach"&pg=PA1003&printsec=frontcover All of my shots are reaching at most mach 3.2-3.3 from mach 1.1-1.2 launches(12km). The previous white paper had max speed as listed as m4.3-m5. So where did these numbers come from? Edit 1: after force spawning myself at mach 1.6 at 50,000 i am able to get mach 3.7-3.8 in a pitbull launch straight ahead but so far that is the closest I am coming to 4+ I'll upload some tracks if I can remember how to do that after I run some more flights. AIM-54 archived report.pdf

So something that i've been looking at (yes it is because my booty is hurt after not being able to get kills at 70nm anymore on fighters, yes i know its not close to accurate but i miss my old laser beam mk60A) The speeds I have been able to get in GS server on the 54C(both motor types) has been at best 1700-1800 Kn Launch parameter is m1-m1.1 at 36000-40000 feet target is 40nm head on at about the same speed at 5000-15000ft alt Both missiles zoom to 60,000feet and dont breach 1800kn https://books.google.com/books?id=bM6eTY5nE1AC&pg=PA1003&printsec=frontcover&dq=aim-54+"mach"&output=embed&source=entity_page&newbks=0&hl=en&ved=2ahUKEwjmkojC3fv5AhX1F1kFHZ6BDqoQ4KgFKAB6BAgjEAE#v=onepage&q=aim-54 "mach"&f=false See link above for testimony during a DOD hearing. The "fact sheet" given to congress was one stating the 54A demonstrated mach 4.3, I am launching at mach 1 and barely breaching mach 3.1 at 60,000ft. If this is a case of not launching fast enough then that brings up the question of how do we get our tomcat faster than m1.4 with a phoenix on it? If it isn't a question of launch speed than the missile is falling short of speed by about 700mph-800 mph. And that is with the 54C with both engine types. Even not making the argument of M5 and just trying to hit m4.3 we are looking at a drastic change of speed on a missile that in dcs is at least known to <profanity> itself once its booster gives thanks to drag. Another problem I have been seeing is guidance is wonky. In the 10% of launches I make I find the C guidance is not chasing or intercepting a plane, but instead is tracking an invisible target 100feet above its head like its trying to attack the hand thats holding a training aid. perfectly tracking the movement of the target but off vertically by 100 feet. Is that jamming confusing the target or should I not be seeing that?