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You are just outenergying them because they shoot early, try again from 5nm and see again... Useless post honestly. The R-77 from this Tacview doesen't have enough energy to make that turn. You will be able to barrel roll an amraam from 5nm but no old API missile. That's the whole point of this post. What you are showing is completely unrelated.

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In multiplayer having bigger fuzes will have funny results i believe. Btw the Aim-120 is the only missile in the game that has this issue. The Sparrow cannot be barrel rolled and neither can the R-77.

Problem contributing to this is that a violent high G roll is not affecting the pilot's fatigue level. People can spin around at 7g forever and there's no downside to doing it. If you perform such a maneuver in Il-2 the pilot gets tired with heavy blurred vision and controls won't work like they should, giving you partially randomized control stick inputs.

With the new update it seems even easier to do it

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You can outG the missile like this in multiplayer reliably without causing lag fyi.

I understand the barrel roll maneuver from my trackfiles is legit and not some kind of bug abuse/exploit but a feature of the 120B/C and new missile API because they have realistic computing delay for the intercept and during heavy maneuvers that error accumulates causing the high G miss just short of the target. Maybe the community should rethink banning people for this in multiplayer? (i didn't get banned anywhere lmao) What is your opinion on this?

Without Chaff at 10000m altitude: Tacview-20241018-183541-DCS-1v1.zip.acmiAmram can be barrel rolled without chaff F16 high alt.trk

It's fine if AoA-Rolling does work in Singleplayer. I just want to report this so its not treated as the "AoA-Roll" desynch issue from multiplayer where the missile actually loses track because you are teleporting slightly ingame. Here the missile misses while maintaining track the whole time. Possible without chaff in Singleplayer: Tacview-20241018-182915-DCS-1v1.zip.acmiAmram can be barrel rolled without chaff F16.trk This track here is not an "AoA-Roll" even though some people call it that. The AoA-Roll is a different issue related to multiplayer only.

What you are talking about is an AoA-roll and that only works in multiplayer. This post is not about AoA-Rolling. Please provide a track from this update where you defeat an Aim-120 shot from NEZ headon with no chaff in singleplayer.

Attached are 2 tracks and 2 tacview file that show that with correct chaff usage the Aim-120 can be barrel rolled head on with a 100% success rate. Tested in Singleplayer against AI. This is not the infamous "AoA-Roll" from multiplayer. Tacview-20241018-170835-DCS-1v1.zip.acmi Tacview-20241018-170646-DCS-1v1.zip.acmi Amram can be barrel rolled F16 pov.trk Amram can be barrel rolled F16 pov2.trk

The Hornet can guide onto a target while being cold from it, the Mig-29 will instantly trash its missiles if you go outside of radar gimbal limits.

All aim-7 carriers can over gimbal the radar and are able to guide the missile after reacquiring from memory mode. Idk why they can, i am just saying that's how it is ingame, see tracks.