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I already have a project, not quite airframe modeling, but rather something I will use to experiment. ;)
*sets Transponder to 7500*
-just kidding ;) It looks very good! Keep us informed :thumbup:
Anyways, thanks to Alfa - I have some screenshots for you guys to check out. Right now I am working on getting all 3 LODs to work in LockOn. I won't be releasing the model until that time because I don't want to release an incomplete project. Anyways, here are the screens:
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Bump - has this been accepted?Oh yes, I've completely forgotten about this project because of the fuel-tank one!
You've submitted it approximately 3 months ago now, have you gotten word back? I would love to see your MK82 model showcased in the next batch of ED screenies. ;)
Hi Guys! I never received any official "yes or no" after submitting the model. What I was told was that the model looked very good and would be passed on to ED's 3D artists (to add the finishing touches, I would presume).
As for the lack of final renders in this thread, well that is because technically the model submitted couldn't be the end product due to the way models are animated in LockOn (in this case, the retarding fins opening up). However, with some copying/cloning and reworking of the fins pivot points, this model could be very feasable. Like I said, no official word has been returned to me as a definite "yes or no" so I am keeping my fingers crossed that we will see it sometime soon!
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Small update:
Hey guys, sorry I've been MIA for a bit. At the moment, I am working out a couple of small details on the skin that ED requested be adjusted. As for polys on the LODs, so far there have been no complaints although the dialogue has been minimal - I am guessing they are very busy with BS. No official word yet on whether or not the model will be accepted.
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Thanks for the update! Looks really good. I see no diffrence between these two LODs, except that black thingy on the tail part. Can you show us render purely in wire-frame mode?
Thanks! ;) Here are 3 wireframe views - the 3rd render helps to show off the difference quite well. As you can see, there are more sections in the LOD-1 model and it also has more sides (32 if I remember correctly). The LOD-2 model has less sections and fewer sides (16 I think it is), hence a blockier look.
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looks great!
Thanks!
Update: I have finished cutting away some polys from the LOD-1 model and I have finished making the LOD-2 model. Here are a couple of side-by-side renders to show the difference between the models:
LOD-1 is 1155 polys.
LOD-2 is 614 polys.
The texture is 512x512.
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Nice! :D
Thanks!
WHOA FREAKIN NICE :thumbup:Double thanks!
That DOES look friggin' outstanding iViper! :D Since I have never done 3D modeling before...how difficult would it be to modify that to look like a 600 gal. fuel tank like the A-10s and F-111s carry?Probably not too bad - but I would need a side profile of the tank (from a scale drawing). Also, I'd have to make a new texture/skin for it. I'll look into it after finishing this model. Finally, I would need measurements to scale the model to its appropriate dimensions. Gotta luv the A-10!!! :joystick:
WOW!!! If ED doesnt accept it, which they should! Is it possible for you to just make this into a mod for lock on useing like Modman/Loman?Unfortunantly no. To the best of my knowledge, ED has not and is not planning on releasing the MAX->LOD converter that would be required for the model to be incorporated into the game.
as they say in the hood... TIGHT!Thanks!
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OK - finished the texture! Here is a render of what it might look like. All that is left is to make the LOD-2 model and then send it to ED for consideration. :thumbup:
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Added some more markings to the texture - still working on it! Alfa, I will post that "how-to" as soon as I have some more time.
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Does the model have LODs ? And how many polys does it have? I wonder if it is more then entire F-15 model :D
You almost gave me a heart attack. I went back to check the exact count and it was around 3600!!! I knew something was not correct, checked it again... the model had been converted to an editable mesh when I UVW mapped it. I converted it back to editable poly - what it originally was - and it is a total of 1283 right now (huge difference!). Also, I found a couple of places where I can cut out some polys that were extra - which will decrease that number by about 150. So I estimate the final LOD-1 to be at 1150 or so. So in other words, yes it will have LODs, but right now I have only made LOD-1 and have to get everything correct on it before making LOD-2 (which will be pretty easy). One thing is for sure, it will look great on the F-15 if ED accepts it!
Nice work Viper! :) .Can I ask you how you got that 3D background for your rendering? - it looks cool for presentation :) .
Cheers,
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Sure! I will make another post later tonight in the 3D models section. I would post it here but it is too many steps and details for this thread. How's your 3D modeling going? If you need any help or have any questions you can also PM me anytime! :thumbup:
I'm not going to drop it even when its out of fuel.
Thanks for your support!
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cool, once its over you can finish this project and send it in to ED. And if they accept it (which they should because its freakin great) maybe you can start work on a Mig-29 fuel tank :P .
How'd I get volun-told for that? jk.
In all honesty, I have some skinning projects that I'd like to finish after I finish the F-15 fuel tank - including one that I think will be very substantial for the Lomac environment! So that's pretty much a no-go for the MiG-29, sorry :( .
I started on the skin - got all of the panel lines and about 80% of the markings in place (everything else you see is temporary). The rivets on the back will get a little more attention too. Here's a render:
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:thumbup: Freakin sweet man, good luck on your classes too.
Thanks! Next week is Finals, so atleast it will be over soon!
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viper, is ED fingers up with the new tank??? Its perfect IMO. :)
Thanks! I haven't heard from ED yet. Like I said, they know about the project and are most likely waiting until I submit the final model to them in order to make a decision. I don't have a final poly count yet, but it's around 1500 for the LOD-1 model - so that shouldn't be too resource hungry. I'll be making an LOD-2 model as well, which will be pretty easy to do compared to the LOD-1.
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here's a quick update. i've been extremely busy working 2 jobs and taking summer classes... so not a lot of progress, but it's almost done! here is a render of the UVW map applied to the fuel tank. i am working on the skin now. :thumbup:
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Update!
-modified tank shape
-added fuel hoses
-scaled and placed suspension lugs
perspective and left viewports:
to do list:
-cut out fuel cap shapes and indent them inwards
-make and place textures
-submit model to ED :thumbup:
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I let them know I was working on it and gave them the link to this thread. My guess is that they want to see the finished model before making any decision.
Anyone know if BS will support bump mapping for sure? This would be a good idea for the rivets n' such on the tank instead of adding polys to the model.
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Here's some renders showing the progression of work on the tail fin area...
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Wow, that f15 close up of the tank is really good wow! Do you plan on putting the rivits in the tank too or no?
Thanks! I will be putting in the bolts that hold the fin to the tank for sure. As for the rivets, I am going to see how it looks with the rivets as part of the skin. If it looks good then no need to add more polys - if not, then we shall see. Same goes for what looks like a fuel cap near the center of the tank.
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.. but indeed in US class A airspace starts at 18000 feet (change your alitmeter to std pressure 29.92) and you can't fly VFR in class A - IFR must fill flight plan and communicate with ATC.
Close. In the US, Class A airspace begins at FL600 (60,000 ft) and above - in addition to ATC, NASA usually likes to know what you are doing so high up, jk. Controlled airspace begins at FL180 (18,000 ft) - which requires a flightplan and must be IFR - in the US.
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Excellent! Thanks :thumbup: Some more progress on the tailfin:
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I'm not familiar with the altitude unit "FL". Definition?
"FL" stands for "Flight Level" and is used for all altitudes beginning at 18,000 ft (FL180) and up. It begins at 18,000 feet because any flight at or above this altitude must be an IFR (Instrument Flight Rules) flight, which means you must be in contact with ATC by radio (radar contact is not required because not all areas of the earth have radar converage - like the middle of the ocean or some parts of Alaska). For such areas, there are Mandatory Reporting Points, hence the requirement to be in contact with ATC via radio.
From the ground and up to less than 18,000 ft would just be in terms of thousands of feet. For example 15,000 feet would be "One Five Thousand". The term "Angels" is used mostly by the US Navy to represent altitude in thousands of feet. For example, Angels 15 would be 15,000 ft.
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Small update - i've been working on refining the tail fin and also made the tips of the fuel tank more rounded. The tail fin still needs some more work, but it is coming along well.
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... or in other words, the pilot does not set an intermediate position. The flaps "blow up" because they are approaching their overspeed limit and move to prevent damage. The flap settings for "normal" ops are down or up.:)
yeah what he said, hehe. ;)
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Flap System:
"Each wing has a two position trailing edge flap. The flaps are electrically controlled and hydraulically operated. When the flaps are down, they are protected from structural damage by a blow up airspeed switch. The switch is set to automatically retract the flaps at approximately 250 knots. At approximately 240 knots, the flaps will automatically return to the down position, providing the flap control switch is in the down position."
Flap Control Switch:
"The flap control switch is a two position switch located on the throttle quadrant.
Up: Retracts the flaps
Down: Extends the flaps"
Flap Position Lights:
"The flap position lights are on the left sub-panel. The YELLOW light indicates the flaps are in transit. A GREEN light indicates the flaps are down."
(Source = Dash 1 manual, March 1986)
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I'd say lock on simulates the flight performance of the real F-15C very well (compared to the figures in the real Dash 1 manual). There's always room for improvement of course - like AFM. Avionics/Weapons Systems are another story and can only be simulated to a certain degree due to classified info limitations and other things in that area. On a side note - and not to hijack the thread - has anyone noticed that IRL most US aircraft release one flare at a time and not two at the same time like in the game?
US 610 Gal. Fuel Tank for F-15C
in 3D Modeling for DCS World
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I haven't been able to put much time towards this project lately - been studying for my checkride! There are a couple of slight adjustments that I want to make to the models and from there, I gotta figure out how to get LockOn to switch between LODs. Thanks for the encouragement and wish me luck!