JCamel
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In light of that, if I'm guessing anyway, I may as well use manual, un-assisted CCIP.
Seems like a pretty daft TV-assistance system. I also miss the CBU-97/105. Is there no Russian equivalent?
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My opinion is wrong? The reason i say that is because many other aircraft can do that.
You are wrong again.
I would happily listen to an argument saying the ef is better than the rafale or superhornet, but claiming its in the same class as a raptor or f35 is silly.
No one said that. I didn't anyway. Some people commented that it has, verifiably, beaten the F-22 in VR dogfights and that's when the teddy bear left the pram. No one is questioning the F-22's superiority in BVR - no one sensible anyway. The only other argument ongoing is wheher the Typhoon is better than an F-15C, which is like asking whether an F-15C is better than an F-4. (That might be a bit harsh, substitute F-14 for F-4.)
untill it gets CaptorE i am reluctant to even call it better than a hornet. And the aim120D is slotted to be better than the meteor.
That's like saying you're reluctant to call a Hornet better than a Tornado. More childish nonsense. As regards AIM-120D vs Meteor. The Meteor is closer to the proposed FMRAAM that was rejected by Europe in favour of the Meteor. To understand why you can't compare the AIM-120D to a Meteor, do some research and buy a book on propulsion and understand why, despite any wikipedia-style claims, it will not beat the Meteor for range. Due to the fact that the AIM-120D is not an air-breathing missile it has to carry its own oxidizer and therefore it's physically and mathematically impossible for it to outrange the Meteor. You also need to be careful in confusing absolute range with no escape range. The 60+nm (105+km) of the Meteor is a no escape range. An aircraft within that range is screwed even if it immediately 180s and goes full speed in the opposite direction as soon as the missile is launched. The same cannot be said with the ranges quoted for the AIM-120D.
Regardless the phoon is a beautiful and deadly aircraft that is extememly capable. But you must admit either they are really trying to sell them or they have a lot of fanboys.
There are no other NATO aircraft besides the F-22 beating it 'overall' in NATO air-to-air engagements and even that is struggling/losing in dogfights. Oh and you do know we are getting the F-35 as well as the US, hence why there are no carrier-capable Typhoons.
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That's why I never bother with Combat Mix in the A-10 anymore. I just use HEI. Far more effective on light armoured and unarmoured stuff/personel and then I use missiles and sub-munitions on MBTs that would actually work in the real world where you can't kill an MBT with 70 30mm rounds.
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Exactly, it's like saying, "Oh well I don't think faster than the speed of sound is faster than the speed of sound."
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Also i don’t consider mach 1.2 super cruise
Then you are wrong.
Errr.... No. First off, this alleged exercise victory was quite specifically listed as a "dogfight". Not sure how many dogfights are fought BVR these days. I always thought the two terms were mutually exclusive. Maybe that's just me.
I agree that speed, ceiling, radar output, radar cross-section, ECM, ECCM, and missile capability are more important than raw maneuverability.
I disagree that the Typhoon is superior to the F-15 in all of these (or even most). The F-15 is a mach 2.5 fighter. The Typhoon is a mach 2 fighter.
Currently, BOTH fighters are armed with AIM-120. You can't make comparisons with weapons that don't exist/ aren't fielded yet (at least, unless you want me to start claiming US Boeing ABLs are going to fly around melting all your fighters from the sky with death rays). They aren't pertinent.
The MBDA Meteor is ready next year, the Boeing ABL is cancelled and is a shit idea anyway because it involves constantly flying a a huge plane near enemy airspace hoping for a ballistic missile launch nearby. No one would think to shoot it down immediately prior to launch. The Typhoon is quoted at Mach 2+. The top speed has not been released.
I'm pretty sure the radome on the Eagle is larger than the Typhoon, and the available electrical power is superior, allowing for equal (or superior) radar. I don't know enough details to compare their detection ranges without doing some serious research first, but I'd be inclined to guess that the Eagle equals or surpasses the Typhoon in detection range (almost certainly, with the AESA-equipped Golden Eagles which now comprise a significant portion of the US active-duty F-15C fleet).
And CAPTOR-E will be on the way shortly.
The Eurofighter consortium's claims of stealth are frankly laughable. They could compare Typhoon to the F/A-18E, regarding RCS... they could even claim to significantly better the Superhornet, and I'd be willing to believe them. But when they claim superior RCS to the F-22 in ANY aspect, I call BS. ANY aircraft with external weapons stowage is going to lose to the F-22 and F-35 in RCS, from all aspects, by a lot. An AIM-9 has a larger RCS than an entire F-22.
Is it as stealthy as an F-22? No, not close, but it is a very stealthy aircraft relative to other 4th gen aircraft and perhaps the answer to stealth is to shoot down the missiles and force a dogfight. The only current NATO aircraft that will beat the Typhoon in an engagement with equal pilots is the F-22 in BVR and maybe the F-35 too soon.
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I personally think the Raptor with Starscream markings looks awesome ;)
I've always liked the shape of the Raptor.
+1.
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I actually meant the KMGU dispenser.
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...and order is restored! :D
What does EF do that this doesn't, really?? It is very capable, and half the price. I'm sure the latest toys can be put into this thing.
Well the answer is that the Typhoon does everything a little better except land on carriers but that's because the F-35 is coming.
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Thanks for the info. Seems indeed RPG's are still a serious threat for this type of tanks, if we look at the latest incidents in Syria.
Which RPG are you talking about though? Some RPGs have greater RHA penetration that ATGMs.
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Yes, especially true of the ground crew.
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During early development, yes. Now however we'd just like what we asked for years ago.
At least you're not waiting for an MRA4.:lol:
Worst project ever.
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Put simply the problems are money, and BAE Systems. If we had more of the former and got rid of the latter things would be much further along than they are now. In some cases the other partner nations also hold things up by arguing over capabilities that we want and they don't and vice-versa. Capability creep is also an issue, although not as much now as it was early on.
When it comes to weapons it doesn't matter if they are already in use on another aircraft, they still have go through the same trials as if they were brand new on a new airframe. And some of those trials can only be carried out in places like the Nevada ranges due to lack of space in the UK for live weapon employment and testing, and getting jets to the states for trials is expensive, not to mention the cost of the range time itself.
Things will get there, it's just that in the current financial climate it'll take longer that's all.
Now as I remember it, a lot of problems were caused by test pilots and the DPA always trying to squeeze in last minute changes when it was past the last minute.
EPW II, 1000 lbs.Overkill.:lol:
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The Brimstone was much better sized for that job. Was that a 500lb bomb?
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I don't think the F-35 will properly replace the Harrier's true VTOL abilities.
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Finally managed a hit with manual release.
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Tried out the MER bombs. Now you'd think hitting a large area target like a car park with submunitions would be easy but no, they consistently miss. Track attached.
I even tried aiming them short to compensate but somehow they always found a way of missing. Almost like smart weapons in the way they consistently thought of how to miss. I think it's something to do with the release delay not be accounted for by the release program.
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LOL - most of that is a wish-list for the real thing! :D We want to keep it as realistic as possible, right? :D
ASRAAM
AMRRAM
IRIS-T
AIM-9
:D
Seriously - someone out me out of my misery and show me a photo of it carrying live air-to-ground ordnance.
Best regards,
Tango.
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Well technically I did hear it from guys in the pub but the guys were RAF. They use pubs too.
The Typhoon is indeed an ugly piece of work.Shame that because the primary design objective was to make it look pretty.
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So long as we've established that an AI Typhoon should beat an AI F-22 in a dogfight let's get back on topic.;)
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You're right. I mistook an IRIS-T for one.
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Tank rounds should not bounce off helicopters. I think there are some issues with the damage model. It takes as many Kh-29s (320kg warhead) to destroy an aircraft bunker as AGM-65Ds (57kg warhead).
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Thanks for those Falcon.
Tobashi, Not a definitive or finalised list but here you go:
27mm Mauser BK27 cannon
AIM-9 Sidewinder
ASRAAM
IRIS-T (for German variant)
AIM-120 AMRAAM
Meteor
Paveway II
Paveway II DMLGB
Paveway III
GBU-10
GBU-16
GBU-24 Paveway III
Lightnening III pod
AGM-84 Harpoon
AGM-65 Maverick
JASSM
Taurus
Storm Shadow
ALARM
CBLS-200
Brimstone
MICA?
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Who you calling ugly?
DCS: Eurofighter Typhoon - Avionics
in VEAO Simulations
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Missile has built-in high frequency millimetric wave radar + INS + lot's of other clever algorithms.