thanks guys for the assistance, and I did try all the above.
Like I said, have phidget software running, no trackir running, not even DCS, just helios.
Made new profile set up just one toggle switch, made it work with my GPWIZ controller for a real switch and works fine. Made switch turn on one of the LED groups and nothing, removed GPWIZ as part of switch making me have to click switch on helios to try and still nothing.
I can control the lights via the ph software, but still getting nothing through HELIOS for some reason