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I was referring to the order time. I order from Virpil and it takes months. I order from VKB and it's about a week. As far as the VKB linear throttle, that is indeed vapor-ware. They did at least follow through on the space combat throttle handle. That's a start I guess.

We might have hope with Virpil of course it will be order it in 2026 and get it in 2036 or so. I'm really keen to see what their nm rating will be.

That wasn't my point. The Rhino is fugly, so I want it in the Moza AB9 body along with properly functioning firmware and software. I like aesthetics and functionality.

The scary thing is the base has been out for almost a year if not slightly longer and they still have those listed issues. Talk about slow development progress! I wish I could plant the guts of the VPForce base into the Moza base.

What they did was extremely lame, but we are beating a dead horse at this point.

Moza has the best looking force feedback base by far, but they can't code software or package software installers worth a beep. It's almost comical. I've never seen anything like it.

That is correct regarding alternate base. I'm aware of their forum but looking at several original posts with no responses, I figured I would have a better chance here. Thanks.

Does anyone know if whe running the grip with a Bluetooth connection, does the button on the RealSim F-18 adapter also work in that mode? Thanks.

I posted the proposed release date above. Hopefully they follow through.

From Discord... # MOZA Cockpit **1.0.4.17** (Planned: 2025/03/13) ## Software - Added support for new devices. - Added telemetry force feedback support for IL-2 GB. - Added version management for DCS scripts, X-Plane plugins, and MSFS telemetry processes. **If the Cockpit software prompts a configuration error, please reinstall the DCS scripts.** - Added breakout force simulation, allowing users to achieve more precise stick centering through this special centering algorithm. **Please do note that this feature is still experimental.** - Added an advanced physics model option, enabling independent four-direction control of spring, damping, inertia, and friction. **Note: Since some fields have been adjusted in the release version, users who have modified the physics model and saved presets in the 1.0.4 beta version may need to reload their presets, make adjustments, and save them again.** - Fixed an issue where the newly saved preset was not immediately loaded after saving it as a new preset. - Fixed some of the stability issues.

You should calm down.

The Thrustmaster grips are fully supported. That is just an extremely ignorant support rep.

OK

And it appears that Virpil is no longer going to produce the VFX. So the only F-14 option is VKB with Walmus' adapter that goes from the VKB grip straight to the black box.

No clue if it actually works: https://www.amazon.com/Flight-Joystick-Adapter-All-aluminum-Grooves-PC/dp/B0DS5ZNQJL/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=2R2E2XLNU0LKK&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.rOuaqGeOfbeXSHB1Ly6OhYjjMyzxKUAGvsWJIt5dkjs.PzRynHeBlDMoqrQ7avlvyw5PCV99GDa1eVKFn-AdFAw&dib_tag=se&keywords=moza+flight+joystick+adapter&qid=1740070708&sprefix=moza+flight+joystick+afapter%2Caps%2C138&sr=8-1