nekhron

that is called bad parenting :p

right I mean pre release is not something ED created . but you have to take a step back and look at the past release. Again we all love what ED does but it's also important to call them out when they do something you don't agree with. the F-16 is subpar release quality then other ED product they released before and the question is why and do they need to look at alternative source of funding like skins or ... I am taking part of Pre-Release so following your logic why don't I get to voice an opinion and you do :)

I have the f18 too and even at early release it wasnt as alpha as the f16

but I'm sorry using the Word Beta is completely wrong in this context. It's an Alpha. Beta refers to the phase in software development between the alpha phase and the release candidate phase. Beta software is generally considered "complete" by the developer but still not ready for general use due to a lack of testing "in the wild." Alpha software is computer software that is still in the early testing phase. The "alpha phase" of software development follows the early programming and design stages, but precedes the "beta phase" in which the software closely resembles the final version. Remember Debate is healthy none of us is looking forward ed failing we all like ED here we just have different opinion on what quality as a beta software. Clearly the f16 is a much earlier stage then beta at this point not having it's basic component completed or coded. Maybe they should keep an Alpha Branch

That is a great question

Don't know why you guys seems so butt-hurt over it. In the end I will table the f16 for a few month let it mature a bit. I still feel they lowered the bar. and your 30 years experience well you should have seen a progression of software quality over 30 years :P

I have seen a lot of early model but this is the first time it's missing so much of the basic stuff. Not that it won't get better it just a bit very very early release this time. I wonder if they didn't want to have simultaneous release of the jf-17 and f-16 that could cannibalize the same market. Or did the pressure came from the release date on steam. But I am surprise to see such a crude flight model , texture, damage model. I understand about missing feature but even the f18,f14 wasn't lacking as much in that department. I cant help to think there was a timing factor at play for this release.

Sometime you wonder if this is a Pre-release plane :P

just wow tremendous work thank you so much for bringing this to the community

fantastic campaign

been having fun tweaking it to my taste in case anyone want that type of setup https://www.dropbox.com/s/vmjdae0m6xd1iyc/dcs_liberation_1.4.4moddedv2.7z?dl=0 - disabled cas mission, helo (because I dont aim to do those) - disabled Helo spawn as CAS(they are too slow to show up to the ao) - label only for allies -added 2 random type AA/sam behing CAP mission front line -added 1 random type AA/sam near strike target -disabled infantry attack on base (I dont use helo) -added air to air payload for harrier -added different units tweaked the numbers thanks again for your hard work

First great work! I love it. I started adjusting the code a bit but wow is my python rusty . added some random AA near cap patrol and stuff. I think the map could use a bit more aa specially in strike next thing I probably gonna add. Love the tool !

Deffered shader dont seems to work quite right

I don't get the difference in look between 2.5.0 and 2.5.2 its really weird on the left is 2.5.2 beta middle : 2.5.0 : without deferred shading right : 2.5.0 : with deferred shading 2.5.2 is lighting up like xmass tree My spec are : I7-8700 16 gig of ram gtx 1080 8 gig

he posted them at the beginning of the post GTX 1060 6Gb i7-6700k 16 GB ram Windows 10-64 bits

alright mister . I will simplify it for you. I understand what beta stand for. And yes I do work in the field and I will allow myself to chime in. I would never chime in about how realistic the flight model of plane is because I don't have real hands on experience in that field, but software dev yes I will. What I am saying is look the release is not stable for multiplayer and also is quite unstable for single player and very optimized, before you look at implementing new stuff please make the release stable or your just adding more failure factor and making the release cycle longer. I love their product and I understand yeah they are having a challenging time and yes they will fix it. I just wished they would have prioritized stabilizing the 2.5 release first

Again that would be true if release 2.5 was stable but it is not . Campaigns have a lot of issues multiplayer is very unstable. The loading server side is terrible. 2.5 to me is an unstable snapshot...

All cute and dandy as answer but I write and architect code for a living this ain't normal release management. I say that because I believe they can do better and I want them to succeed I will say that dcs is the best combat flight simulator as of 2018 and I very much enjoy playing it. I still think the release could be managed better and have a better focus on hardening their release before adding more variables to the mix.

I still don't understand how they do their release management. But I wish they would look at a better release management methodology. I though 2.5.1 would fold in the main branch before they start pushing new content in. Because now it means it will take quite a bit cycle before they roll anything in the release branch. It seems that since the alpha branch is gone the release is just a snapshot in time. So I am not sure what the main release branch purpose is or even if it should exist if it's not being handle in a separate delivery pipeline than the development pipeline.

its back up feel free to delete this post

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facing the same issue unfortunately :( no joy in 1.5.7

trying to fix this mod so I was a bit sad I couldnt use the mod as it crash in 1.5.x. I usually roam the forum but I never post. So I decided to create myself an account so I can contribute so I took a look at it and its a tweak of the .lua. so i merged with he new version to make it work again. if you want to give it a go this is my current version I used with the latest version : https://www.dropbox.com/s/zdmi1dia9twvv80/warhead_mod.zip?dl=0 A big thanks Erpe for creating this mod