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Is has everything to do with discredit. You also resist bringing up other factors in the Gorman incident like witnesses. It seems you didn't even read the article. IMO Jupiter explanation is total BS but I am however open to the balloon theory. All I'm saying it try to look at both sides.

Right.. Does or can this happen? Sure. But are you ready to discredit multiple pilots that saw the same thing? BTW the Gorman incident is not open and close case as you would like to suggest, pretty interesting actually. https://www.history.com/news/ufo-dogfight-gorman-us-plane-fargo

I liked this one the most! ;)

Welcome! :)

Ok so (A) you think the objects are secret man made tech or (B) Its all made up BS story by the government. - The objects (if real) flew horizontally at over 4000mph, were tracked underwater at 500mph, and flew vertically 28000ft in 0.7sec Man made or not we have some serious questions that need to be answered with regards to energy/fuel/propultion - How many people would have to be IN on this lie? pilots, radar crew, air craft crew, dod , cia, navy - The videos have proof of custody - Why lie? To make the public afraid, to increase funding? Why wait so long? Seems like there would be easier scenarios to make up a BS story without involving an entire carrier battel group. - Remember there are 3 different incidents, the count on liars is getting high.

Dude what's with you LOL? That's YOU isn't it..? You have 2 different You tube channels? Daniel Arkangel and CDRSUBSVFA35 The Intro to both these is suspiciously similar, and

Fox News

Watching Unidentified right now.. whoa..

Got a link? I'd like to see where you are getting all this from.

Yep, everyone better wake up and put their big boy pants on, this is real, its happening and these people are serious. Controled/soft disclosure is in full effect.

Yep agreed!

Well both, yes it starts Friday 9pm central on history channel, its called Unidentified, if you watch the link on my post just above it will give you more info. But if u are interested in the tic tac, here is a good docu

In totally lookin forward to it Friday! An interesting clip on Fox News talking to one of the TTSA guys, Christopher Mellon who was the former deputy assistant to the secutary of defence.

Jesus Christ!

You gotta pull your head out of the sand at some point but then again maybe some of us should just remain..

Multiple visual, carrier radar and FLIR recording. Guys I suggest you watch this, it is very well done.

So they were primed to see a 40-foot Tic Tac with L-shaped appendages coming out the bottom?.. damn I got to get me some of that priming

Wow, when F18 Pilots (plural) say they see something I believe them! I think you're being incredibly narrow-minded and I also think that you are forgetting how qualified and well-trained these individuals are for observing and reporting. The Navy only picks the best, they don't pick fools that would mistake a smudge.. get real.. I'd also like to add he described it in detail that of a craft that was the shape and size of a 40-foot Tic Tac with two L-shaped appendages on the bottom. One of the crew that review the original Flir footage described it the same way and that the original footage was 10 minutes long and much more clear.

Not really.., but what I was trying to say is that they don't understand how gravity its self works let alone how it can be artificially produced and/or manipulated. They don't know if its a wave or gravitons, Ill edit the post to clear that up. Think magnetism for example at one point we had no idea how it worked.

I think it is likely extra terrestrial, pilots have been seeing these since the forties and fifties long before we had anything that was remotely close and comparatively conceivable. I believe they use a form of gravity based propultion/manipulation. By the way the modern scientific community still doesn't fully understand gravity its self!

You have no "facts". No they don't need BS to motivate them, they obviously have more advanced tech (don't use "better"), they are apparently already here, (so no travel time needed) and if Heaven is a location then I could equally claim that the state of Kentucky is planning for our meeting too with just as much validity!

Wut?

A few things will come to light in the next few years for most of the thinking population one ET and or ET tech has been and continues to have a presence on earth, (we are not alone) and religion/god/gods is a fairytale used to keep the local populous in check not to much unlike Santa Claus is used on children except toys or a lump of coal is used in place of hell or a promised eternity in heaven.. ridiculous.. It probably had its usefulness for a time but now is a net negative for civilization, anyhow if you are looking for sober discussion on both topics I recommend Richard Dolan for the ET/UFO/UAP subject and Sam Harris on religion.

Facepalm

Do these two have a difference in accuracy/tracking/reliability IN DCS? The C/47 has updated digital electronics IRL but is it modeled effectively different in DCS? The A/60 does have 3sec more burn for increased speed/range, also leaves smoke trail from what I have read; but aside from that?