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Hello everyone， We have update a notice in first page of this thread. Best

Your lovely hotas is almost ready. hope it could make you happy.

By info I get from produce now, everything are in plan. But if any one of thousands part in the unit can not arrive in plan, it will be a problem. We will try our best!

Surprise come after Chinese new year:)

Thank you very much !!!

Thank you very much! Glad to hear that you like our HOTAS, your suggestion on our considering now. If possible hope to hear what's our stick feel different from your other gears.

Hello Capt， Please try vjoy inside SIMAPP PRO, the software could be download in our website. it could allowed you macro program. There will be a big surprise later in the SIMAPP PRO.

Dear sir, we are very glad to get your money from paypal ASAP. But we must make sure the HOTAS is perfect when in your hand.

very sorry not yet! but we are try to improve this business.

We plan in next month before Chinese new year.

Feedback from a pilot from north east of France.

27th,Jan,2020 NOTICE Thanks for everyone's support in this forums from the first day we announce the HOTAS. Due to the recent national epidemic. The government has demanded that public holidays be extended to February 8. The original plan to ship 2nd batch preorder units on February 1 has changed and needs to be re-determined as the case may be. We are sorry for the delay.We will no longer implement the pre-order method. We plan to maintain a long-term stock after the impact of the epidemic, and we will ship the goods 72 hours after the order is placed. Best for your all, WINWING ************************************************************* First batch preorder units all shipped. Some customers received their lovely HOTAS. Here are some photos shared from our Chinese customers. And overseas customers enjoy together!!! Follow this thread and let me know what do you feel with our HOTAS, thank you!

Announcement: 1. About the product improvement plan: We have maintained communication with the reviewers, tracking the quality and performance of each HOTAS engineering samples and record and feedback one by one. Through their feedback, we will make further improvements. For the quality problem, we solve it one by one with zero tolerance. For the performance problem, we respect the opinions of most users as much as possible (such as HARD CAM and SOFT CAM). We thank these reviewers for their contributions! We apologize for the delay in delivery caused by these problems! 2. About evaluation: Whether it is private or public, we support streamer to express the most realistic and objective feelings, so that we can help us make the most perfect product! We don't let the streamer shut up,lies or attack other brands through threats or money support. Instead, we encourage them to evaluate our products objectively and fairly, which also allows customers to see the improvements and optimizations we made during the delay! As for the streamer's focus on the performance or quality of the engineering samples, this is completely their freedom of speech! 3. About the paid order: We sent the engineering samples to hope that the experienced streamer can help us improve the user experience and find problems, and help more players to understand the product experience from them. We don't mind if they announce the problem/improvement list. Of course, if you are worried that the HOTAS you purchased will have the same problem as the engineering prototype, we understand your mood, you can choose to contact us by email (info@winwing.cn), our The refund rate is very fast!

Very sorry for the delay! We want to do enough test before install to the box. Pictures show:

Wow！ so quickly, did you see our last 3D drawing in our download link?

Hi everyone!Official news here. First batch of the pre-order is now ready to ship out.but we are having a hard time to decide which cam should be out factory setting. we understand hard center cam are close to real thing but for desktop sim, the soft center cam seems to be more suitable. that was the reason that we had a vote from your guys, the result was in favor for hard centering cam. The feed back from youtuber/streamers indicated the soft centercam seems to be better for desktop simulation, so no dead zone, no loose feel of the center, no prominet center detend. Soft cam seems to be more useful in dogfight, AAR and formation flight. So we made a decision. All pre-order hotas will be shipping out with soft cam as default, and this time we will adjust cam and spring to make sure it "feels right" before it went out.And we will give the hard cam as free giveaways too. The free giveaway will end in future but ETA. Due to this change, there will be a slight deley on the shipping. We will try to complete the adjustment within a week.By the way, the order/pre-order after 15th,Sep should be deliver in later Nov, Second batch.and thank you for your patience and support from the very beginning. We`re almost there ! Winwing HOTAS product page https://www.winwing.cn/en/JOYSTICK?language=en Winwing HOTAS web store page https://shop.winwing.cn/shop_en Winwing Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/winwing.cn/ Winwing Facebook community group page https://www.facebook.com/groups/HOTAS/ Winwing YouTube channel ************************************************************************ Some open box from streamers(Review will come later): Redkite first impressions of Winwing HOTAS Jabbers winwing throttle first look Jabbers Winwing joystick first look Magz TV Winwing HOTAS unboxing Check-six Winwing HOTAS unboxing ******************************************************************************* Thanks for Noobifier's beautiful pictures,We believe more introduce about detail will come later with his Review.

Dear It should be about €1xx, if I'm not mistake to France.

Dear, Thank you very much for you suggestion, very useful and give us confidence about how to do default!!! I think I have answer now, but for no mistake to all user, I want to confirm by more like Jabbers. Really really thank you for your suggestion.

First of all, very very thanks for Jabbers 4 hours long time working!!!! Especially very hard in middle night. Full thanks from winwing. About the CAM we still not decide which for default, even in this time we have a vote for streamers, 3 choice hard, 5 choice soft. We have different choice but not decide: 1.Hard x+hard y with different spring, this is mostly like the real aircraft,most aircraft have different force in X/Y. 2.Soft x +hardy with different force, I was told this is most like the F18, we can not confirm in china :) 3.Soft in both x/y, this is most like the current joystick force, for example x52/tm a10, very suitable for experience pilot whom has used other joystick. But our soft cam(now version, we can develop new) have very very little detent in mid if adjust to the best situation(if not adjust in good situation, the detent will became big) 4. If both soft center without little detent, the design will have a dead zone not matter how we adjust, so we give up this kind of CAM, if you have interesting ,please see our introduce video of SUPER LIBRA, the V2.0 is such design. Even, we can adjust the pitch not stand vertically, but hypsokinesis like some real aircraft!!! Real F18 is +76mm/-200mm in pitch axis, we can adjust to such performance!!! About the spring, if pilot want the same force in extension/extension+z/just grip, the spring is different, because the arm of force is change. Pilots need to adjust the force first, after confirm which is best, then adjust the dead zone, finally install the shell. We will add this SOP in the manual. I had a good idea, if we could guide jabbers in very short time, and Jabbers is willing, maybe he can do a camparison of different cam group for every one, we will accept his choice for the default deliver. It's up to Jabbers.

Don't worry, we have auto-test more than 10 thousands push through to AB, no little damage, high quality structure.

it's ours mistake. we send manual to jabbers after beginning. the beta manual could be download now in our website.

I must say this unbox show has no enough prepare. Our biggest mistake is not send streamers the manual before they begin. For example, the LR handle sync is a design for OPEN/CLOSE the "throttles bumping each other", because we have no LOCK for LR. A more detail video is here. https://www.facebook.com/winwing.cn/videos/733108397204681/ And we adjust/calibrated the machine by laser before leave factory, but Jabbers change the CAM and Spring with out read manuals and prepare, so he flight a un-adjust joystick in the rest video. I can understand he don't want such thing. Jabbers is the first streamer you love who show it first, I know he want to show for you, but our HOTAS is something complicate than Game Joystick, need read manual very careful, and adjust by patience. Hope other streamers could prepare carefully for this "Machine", and show your fans the the most important information. Thanks for Jabbers' 4 hours hard work, have a good rest and play more.

Dear all, the base has many adjustable function. We deliver softcenter and hardcenter CAM configuration to streamers, Jabbers get the hard one. absolutely he like soft more, but he has only few time to change and adjust it in the unbox video. Please give him more time to adjust to the best situation he like. And you can waiting for other streamers who get soft center one.

Dear Gholi, $79 is only for Z axis, $49 is noly for extension.

Get this floor for future pictures. Hi everyone! Our extension rod and Z axis kit is on sell now! Extension rod - https://shop.winwing.cn/p/301.html Z axis kit - https://shop.winwing.cn/p/302.html Both add on for HOTAS preorder customer only. Separate sell in future.