deadpool Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) Simple logic: SAM is a mode that combined RWS with STT. It does so by interrogating a target like in STT for an amount of time (t %) and then commands a RWS of the surrounding area for (1-t %) of the time. Let's assume for the sake of argument that it's 50/50. Now the math is simple: You transmit something with a steady power, and the resulting energy at range is dimished by the square for each increase in range. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law ) Lets have an example of just the STT portions of radar energy at different distances: The unit of power doesn't matter as this is just comparative. STT (100% duty cycle) +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | distance (nm) | received power | duty cycle | received power (average) | RWR in DCS | +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 1 | 1.000.000 | STT (100%) | 1.000.000 | beepbeepbeep| +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 2 | 250.000 | STT (100%) | 250.000 | beepbeepbeep| +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 3 | 111.111 | STT (100%) | 111.111 | beepbeepbeep| +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 4 | 62.500 | STT (100%) | 62.500 | beepbeepbeep| +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 5 | 40.000 | STT (100%) | 40.000 | beepbeepbeep| +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 6 | 27.778 | STT (100%) | 27.778 | beepbeepbeep| +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 7 | 20.408 | STT (100%) | 20.408 | beepbeepbeep| +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 8 | 15.625 | STT (100%) | 15.625 | beepbeepbeep| +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 9 | 12.345 | STT (100%) | 12.345 | beepbeepbeep| +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 10 | 10.000 | STT (100%) | 10.000 | beepbeepbeep| +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ Now for SAM with 50% duty cycle +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | distance (nm) | received power | duty cycle | received power (average) | RWR in DCS | +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 1 | 1.000.000 | SAM (50%) | 500.000 | silent | +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 2 | 250.000 | SAM (50%) | 125.000 | silent | +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 3 | 111.111 | SAM (50%) | 55.556 | silent | +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 4 | 62.500 | SAM (50%) | 31.250 | silent | +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 5 | 40.000 | SAM (50%) | 20.000 | silent | +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 6 | 27.778 | SAM (50%) | 13.889 | silent | +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 7 | 20.408 | SAM (50%) | 10.204 | silent | +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 8 | 15.625 | SAM (50%) | 7.813 | silent | +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 9 | 12.345 | SAM (50%) | 6.173 | silent | +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 10 | 10.000 | SAM (50%) | 5.000 | silent | +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ And now mix it and sort by received power (average): +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | distance (nm) | received power | duty cycle | received power (average) | RWR in DCS | +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 1 | 1.000.000 | STT (100%) | 1.000.000 | beepbeepbeep| +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 1 | 1.000.000 | SAM (50%) | 500.000 | silent | +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 2 | 250.000 | STT (100%) | 250.000 | beepbeepbeep| +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 2 | 250.000 | SAM (50%) | 125.000 | silent | +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 3 | 111.111 | STT (100%) | 111.111 | beepbeepbeep| +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 4 | 62.500 | STT (100%) | 62.500 | beepbeepbeep| +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 3 | 111.111 | SAM (50%) | 55.556 | silent | +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 5 | 40.000 | STT (100%) | 40.000 | beepbeepbeep| +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 4 | 62.500 | SAM (50%) | 31.250 | silent | +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 6 | 27.778 | STT (100%) | 27.778 | beepbeepbeep| +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 7 | 20.408 | STT (100%) | 20.408 | beepbeepbeep| +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 5 | 40.000 | SAM (50%) | 20.000 | silent | +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 8 | 15.625 | STT (100%) | 15.625 | beepbeepbeep| +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 6 | 27.778 | SAM (50%) | 13.889 | silent | +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 9 | 12.345 | STT (100%) | 12.345 | beepbeepbeep| +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 7 | 20.408 | SAM (50%) | 10.204 | silent | +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 10 | 10.000 | STT (100%) | 10.000 | beepbeepbeep| +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 8 | 15.625 | SAM (50%) | 7.813 | silent | +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 9 | 12.345 | SAM (50%) | 6.173 | silent | +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ | 10 | 10.000 | SAM (50%) | 5.000 | silent | +---------------+----------------+------------+--------------------------+-------------+ Now this doesn't sound right. Edited May 18, 2020 by deadpool Lincoln said: “Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." Do not expect a reply to any questions, 30.06.2021 - Silenced by Nineline
deadpool Posted May 18, 2020 Author Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) tables fixed. Edited May 18, 2020 by deadpool Lincoln said: “Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." Do not expect a reply to any questions, 30.06.2021 - Silenced by Nineline
Fri13 Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) Fixed tables... Edited May 18, 2020 by Fri13 i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K.
Northstar98 Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 +1 If I'm not mistaken, the STT portion of SAM mode should trigger a lock-warning (where's beamscanner when you need him?). Modules I own: F-14A/B, F-4E, Mi-24P, AJS 37, AV-8B N/A, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070S FE, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro.
Santi871 Posted May 18, 2020 Posted May 18, 2020 Not saying you are wrong, but the duty cycle of a waveform is determined by the PRF, not whether it's in a scanning or tracking mode. In either it's still a pulsed signal at a certain PRF or set of PRFs so the duty cycle will be below 100%. I think the term you are looking for is dwell time.
deadpool Posted May 18, 2020 Author Posted May 18, 2020 Track file added for an STT lock that generates a warning on both sides. Then the SAM lock doesn't generate a warning all the way in. Also in this track file are the famous defects: - Helmet boresight ACM is broken - My car distance beeper reacts quicker than my scan modes - My FPM goes up and down when changing speedTAW_PG_TOP_GUN_DGF_v1.2-20200519-003931.trk Lincoln said: “Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." Do not expect a reply to any questions, 30.06.2021 - Silenced by Nineline
deadpool Posted May 18, 2020 Author Posted May 18, 2020 Not saying you are wrong, but the duty cycle of a waveform is determined by the PRF, not whether it's in a scanning or tracking mode. In either it's still a pulsed signal at a certain PRF or set of PRFs so the duty cycle will be below 100%. I think the term you are looking for is dwell time. Dwell time! Yes! Precisely! Thank you! Lincoln said: “Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." Do not expect a reply to any questions, 30.06.2021 - Silenced by Nineline
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