VincentLaw Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Because every airplane needs one, right? Apparently the Mirage 2000 has a tailhook module that can be installed for short landings. You can see it in these pictures if you look closely. I can't find any pictures of it actually being used though. There is also a parachute module: Yes, I realize all of those pictures are the wrong version of the plane, but I am wondering if either of these features are a possibility for the DCS Mirage 2000C. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Athlonic Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Hi, These 2000's tailhook are actually used in case of emergency only (like the drag chutes) in case of wheel brakes failures or such. We call them "crosse d'arret", of course they do not allow a M2000 to land on carrier ^^ HW : 4790K @4.6 / GTX 1080ti 11GB / 16 GB / Asus ROG Formula VI / Acer Predator 32" 4K Gsync / X-55 Rhino / Oculus Rift-S / TrackIR Combined Arms/Supercarrier/Nevada TTR/Persian Gulf/Normandy F-16C/FA-18C/AV-8B Harrier/F5-TigerII/SA342-Gazelle/M2000-C/L-39 Albatros/C-101/MiG-21/F-86F Sabre/Mi-8MTV2/UH-1H Huey/A-10C Warthog/Black Shark 2/Flaming Cliff 3/Hawk T1A(RIP) WWII : Spitfire/Bf-109 Kurfurst/Fw-190 Dora/P-51D Mustang
Azrayen Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 +1 And you have to choose: hook or chute, both can't be carried at the same time. Choice depends on the mission location.
VincentLaw Posted February 14, 2014 Author Posted February 14, 2014 used in case of emergency onlySince this is a combat flight simulator, I have certainly been subjected to my fair share of emergency landings. The hook can probably bring the airplane to a stop more quickly, but the chute has the advantage of working at unprepared locations. If I am forced to land on a road, I generally want to come to a stop as quickly as possible. There are also some runways in DCS that the A-10 will overrun even if you approach at 110 kts. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Aginor Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 IIRC a lot of planes have those, including the F-4 (the non-naval version as well) and the F-15. Interesting to see that the Mirage2000 has it optionally. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
howie87 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Be interesting to see if you *could* land a M2000 on a carrier with the tail hook... I imagine you'd break the landing gear unless you had a very strong headwind and very little fuel/ordnance. This is why we need the hook in DCS! I love experimenting with things like this.
VincentLaw Posted February 18, 2014 Author Posted February 18, 2014 One of my favorite things about the DCS UH-1H is how you can customize the exhaust nozzle and hardpoint racks in the mission editor, and I imagine the same thing could be done for features like this on the Mirage. (the refueling probe being another example) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
howie87 Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 I thought the refuelling probe was a feature of all M2000's?
Azrayen Posted February 20, 2014 Posted February 20, 2014 Well, you were wrong then. Qatari, Taïwanese and pre-2005 Greek M2000 don't have them, for example.
howie87 Posted February 21, 2014 Posted February 21, 2014 Fair enough. I'm always partial to a bit of AAR though so I'd probably leave mine on! When we get this bird and if it's at the same level of detail as the other DCS aircraft, I'll never want to land it!
mkiii Posted May 15, 2016 Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) The hook is of no use unless there is an arrester wire (RHAG) on the runway for a start. Are any of the DCS runways equipped with one, or a barrier for that matter. Nevada? That would certainly make things interesting. The Lightweight hooks on A/C like the Mirage, Tornado, F-15, f-16, and just about every combat A/C can usually only take the stress of a slow speed grab near the far end of the runway, (although this depends on circumstances, aircraft, and RHAG settings), and then it pays out a LOT of cable compared to a carrier, maybe 100m+, and is a bit underwhelming to watch. Energy is bled off slowly compared to a carrier system which is a high speed (equivalent to a RHAG at the touchdown point set to max), and absorbs the energy of the fwd speed much faster and in a shorter distance, which I'm sure is much more 'exciting'. It certainly would be exciting for the pilot of one of the A/C mentioned, because he might wonder why he wasn't slowing down much.... The reason being that his rear fuselage was sitting on the runway while he carried on without it. ;) I'm no expert, but here is an nteresting thread on this matter:- http://www.fightercontrol.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=82463&start=0 As for the chute... [OT] I once watched a German F-4 take off at RAF Bruggen that we had just Serviced, and just after rotation, at about 50ft off the deck, he decided that it would be a great idea to pop his brake chute. me and the guys were waiting for a bang, but he just kept on piling on the thrust, but seemed to be getting nowhere fast. It seemed to me like he was hovering. After what seemed like ages, he obviously realised what he had done, popped it and shot off like a rocket. he didn't come back for a new one. We didn't get blamed, but I can't see how you could accidentally deply the chute in an F-4. it's a lever much like the M2000 Parking brake on the LH side of the seat. Edited May 15, 2016 by mkiii
Rlaxoxo Posted May 15, 2016 Posted May 15, 2016 Be interesting to see if you *could* land a M2000 on a carrier with the tail hook... I imagine you'd break the landing gear unless you had a very strong headwind and very little fuel/ordnance. This is why we need the hook in DCS! I love experimenting with things like this. I managed to do it with a Chute only [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Youtube Reddit
Rlaxoxo Posted May 15, 2016 Posted May 15, 2016 Did Your chute snag the stern of the carrier? ;) Nah : D I deployed it just as I was about to touch down and made my plane drop harded and bent my wheels [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Youtube Reddit
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