Does anybody know where to find...?

[Guest IguanaKing]

A good list that includes the Russian aircraft in LOMAC, along with the NATO designations of the radar they each carry? I'm finally done with charting threat radars for Eagle and Hog drivers, but I just have a couple of blanks to fill in for aircraft radar NATO names. I've been searching high and low for the NATO designations of the radar in the Su-30, Su-34, and A-50 and can't seem to find that info.

 

One thing I noticed in my search though, is that some of the sites out there make a big deal out of the Su-30s radar operating in both X and L bands (NATO I and D). Heh...I guess I shouldn't tell them what L band is used for...just about every other fighter has it as well. :D

[Cobra360]

The A-50's NATO radar designation is the Flat Jack. Don't know the others.

 

Oh sorry thats the name of the radar radome of the Tu-126 'Moss'

[159_Archer]

IK, when you say a list of RF aircraft, how do you mean? A list of types or NATO names or what?

I have a good book which has some info you may find useful; book is called Russian air power.

A50 is Mainstay, and awacs radar is called squash dome (NATO) shmel (RF - bumblebee).

Bugger; I have no time now to look up more stuff, so I will read through this book and try to colate a bit more info.

Let me know if there is any specific info' you want, and I'll try and get it...:)

[Guest IguanaKing]

Many thanks, Archer! :icon_supe

 

That takes care of the A-50 radar. If you can find the NATO designations for the Su-30 and 34's radars in that book, that would be awesome! Whenever you get a chance of course. ;)

[DPS]

Su-30 might well be Slot Back like the 27 & 33.

 

Had a look for Su-34 but no luck, just a reference to the Leninets V004 phased-array radar at Wiki and the mention of a 'massage function in the K-36 ejector seats'. Time was when sitting on your parachute was considered the height of comfort.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su-34

[Guest IguanaKing]

Heh...sitting on your 'chute is definitely the height of comfort in a P-51D. :D Thanks for the input. A few sources I found have the Su-27 radar as being Flash Dance. That doesn't seem accurate though, since that's the MiG-31s radar. Maybe it'll just be best to release it and then correct it as more info comes in.

 

Here's a cool list I just found, for anybody who might be interested.

 

http://www.designation-systems.net/non-us/soviet.html

[Alfa]

Heh...sitting on your 'chute is definitely the height of comfort in a P-51D. :D Thanks for the input. A few sources I found have the Su-27 radar as being Flash Dance. That doesn't seem accurate though, since that's the MiG-31s radar. Maybe it'll just be best to release it and then correct it as more info comes in.

 

Here's a cool list I just found, for anybody who might be interested.

 

http://www.designation-systems.net/non-us/soviet.html

 

I believe NATO calls both the N019 and N001 "Slotback"(1 & 2) .

 

Anyway, why not just use the proper designations instead of those "Mickey Mouse" names? :rolleyes:

 

If you are interested I can give you a list of those(the real ones) for the Russian aircraft in Lock-on :)

 

Cheers,

- JJ.

[Guest IguanaKing]

Hehehe...thanks Alfa. :D I already have the Russian designations for those systems though. I just wanted to include the Mickey Mouse names for those of us who fly for Mickey Mouse. ;)

[S77th-GOYA]

http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/gustin_military/sovdes.html

[Guest IguanaKing]

Thanks for the link, Goya. No Su-34 radar over there though. :D

[S77th-GOYA]

Yeah, it's missing some other ones as well, but it is a pretty good list.

[britgliderpilot]

Wait . . . . . there's a radar called FlashDance?

 

 

 

Were they having a boring day in NATO headquarters when they thought that one up or something? :p

[Guest IguanaKing]

LOL! Yeah...the name was given back in the 80's when NATO planners were watching said movie on their BetaMax machine. :icon_jook

[S77th-GOYA]

After some research, I learned a bit about the Platypus. The designation was changed to Su-32 as of 2000. And this:

 

A Leninets V004 phased-array multimode radar in the broad "platypus bill" nose, the radar providing terrain-following capabilities as well as a number of other combat modes. It is complemented by a Platan optoelectronic / laser targeting system, with the offensive systems are integrated by an Sh-141 weapons control system.

 

and more importantly, this:

 

The program remained generally stalled through the late 1990s, when it was originally supposed to go into service. By the beginning of 2003, only two prototypes and four preproduction machines had been completed.

 

http://www.vectorsite.net/avsu272.html

[S77th-GOYA]

Another good list, but no a2a radars.

 

http://www.designation-systems.net/non-us/soviet.html

[Alfa]

Hehehe...thanks Alfa. :D I already have the Russian designations for those systems though. I just wanted to include the Mickey Mouse names for those of us who fly for Mickey Mouse. ;)

 

Hehe.....ok np then. :)

 

Cheers,

- JJ.

[Alfa]

Wait . . . . . there's a radar called FlashDance?

 

 

 

Were they having a boring day in NATO headquarters when they thought that one up or something? :p

 

More like a boring decade. For naval radars they came up with more idiotic names than you can imagine - such as; "Bass tilt", "Cake Stand" and "Band Stand" to name a few.

 

Me thinks some Nato employee one day pulled his 4 year-old daughter out of the sandbox and brought her(and her little red plastic shovel) along for work :)

 

Cheers,

- JJ.

[Guest IguanaKing]

Heh...how about land-based radars like Scrum Half? What the hell is a "scrum" anyway? :D

[Alfa]

Heh...how about land-based radars like Scrum Half?

 

LOL....never heard that one before.

 

What the hell is a "scrum" anyway? :D

 

Well a quick guess could be that it is some sort of colourful candy which, when bidden in half, looks a little like the radar in question :icon_karu .

 

Cheers,

- JJ.

[Guest IguanaKing]

Hehe...could be. I'm waiting for the Russian helium-filled weather balloon dubbed by NATO as "Uh-Oh". That'd be my 21-month-old niece who came up with that one. When a helium balloon floats away from her, that's what she says... "Uh-Oh".:D

[159_Archer]

Heh...how about land-based radars like Scrum Half? What the hell is a "scrum" anyway? :D

 

A scrum is a part of the sport of Rugby. I don't follow the game, but it's a big thing here in parts of Europe. Need a fan of the game to explain it in detail, if you want...

 

As for geteing more NATO names for your chart, my book doesn't provide any on the newer RF aircraft. It mentions the SLOT BACK with the SU30; as I see you already have in your handy chart you made up. But no mention of radar names with the Su34...:confused:

[golfsierra2]

IK, when you say a list of RF aircraft, how do you mean? A list of types or NATO names or what?

I have a good book which has some info you may find useful; book is called Russian air power.

A50 is Mainstay, and awacs radar is called squash dome (NATO) shmel (RF - bumblebee).

 

Noboday is calling an AWACS squash dome here in Europe, usually it's called MAGIC, referring to the callsign it usually bears here (Magic xx)

[Cobra360]

NATO code names, eg all Russian fighters NATO code names begin with F, bombers with B and so on. eg I don't think the MiG-29 is known as the Fulcrum in Russia or the Tu-95 ''Bear''.

 

Callsigns are different. Magic is typically an AWACS callsign as you say. But it's not an E-3 Magic.

[britgliderpilot]

A scrum is a part of the sport of Rugby. I don't follow the game, but it's a big thing here in parts of Europe. Need a fan of the game to explain it in detail, if you want...

 

As for geteing more NATO names for your chart, my book doesn't provide any on the newer RF aircraft. It mentions the SLOT BACK with the SU30; as I see you already have in your handy chart you made up. But no mention of radar names with the Su34...:confused:

 

Doesn't a radar actually have to enter service (or at least be in some kind of finalised status) before NATO bother to give it a description?

 

If they're never going to see an Su34 radar, or if it's going to keep changing spec . . . . are they going to give it a name?

[britgliderpilot]

A scrum is a part of the sport of Rugby. I don't follow the game, but it's a big thing here in parts of Europe. Need a fan of the game to explain it in detail, if you want...

 

Rugby was what American Football was before someone did a very bad job of explaining the rules :p

 

 

So, like, you have these two lines of people, and they line up and run into each other, and the ball comes out of the back between their feet, and you've got to get it down to the other end of the field, and there's a 22 yard line, and you can . . . no, you can't . . . . no, you have have to, that's right, you have to throw it forward . . . . um, yeah . . . . and that's rugby!!

 

From this bastardised explanation, the sport of American Handegg was created.

 

 

;)