Change in trackir functionality

[wolfstriked]

Can we have the old version of trackir where the crosshair stayed centered in the Revi when you turned your head.This new implementation makes fighting harder than usual IMO.In the Dora,when you turn your head the reticule moves out of the Revi as if you turn your head AND lean to the side.It makes for weird sensations as I have to move my face in new direction to recenter the crosshair while in real life if I looked up and to the side and glanced down at the crosshair it would still be centered.

 

Try this,go into either P51 or Dora and do some ground attacks with trackir on and off.Then come back here and tell me its just me.:music_whistling:I feel that this trackir implementation is making combat harder than it should be.Watch this video of a person tracking behind a target that is flying straight and level and look how much the crosshair moves all over the revi.It mkaes the plane look and feel unstable when its actually a stable plane once you turn trackir off.Start at 3:20

 

[Flagrum]

This has nothing to do with TrackIR.

 

Afaik, the german "Revi" and similarily the Mustangs K-14(?) used a fixed sight reticle. That is basically a sight line parallel to the aircrafts fuselage/guns.

 

The EZ42 is more sophisticated (and is not a "Revi" - different type/"brand" name!) as it is supposed to automatically correct the aim angle for leading the target. This is done by taking the aircrafts movement (turn rate / heading+pitch change) into account. I.e. the target turns left, you have to turn left, too. To actually hit the target, you need to shoot "in front" of it to compensate for the flight time of the bullets so that bullets and target meet in the same spot in space. This leading angle is derieved by the EZ42 automatically from your own turn rate.

 

With the K-14 you need to guesstimate the lead angle yourself.

 

This is why the K-14 remains fixed and the EZ42 moves slightly when the aircraft changes it's attitude (slightly).

Edited September 2, 2014 by Flagrum

[OutOnTheOP]

This has nothing to do with TrackIR.

 

Afaik, the german "Revi" and similarily the Mustangs K-14(?) used a fixed sight reticle. That is basically a sight line parallel to the aircrafts fuselage/guns.

 

The EZ42 is more sophisticated (and is not a "Revi" - different type/"brand" name!) as it is supposed to automatically correct the aim angle for leading the target. This is done by taking the aircrafts movement (turn rate / heading+pitch change) into account. I.e. the target turns left, you have to turn left, too. To actually hit the target, you need to shoot "in front" of it to compensate for the flight time of the bullets so that bullets and target meet in the same spot in space. This leading angle is derieved by the EZ42 automatically from your own turn rate.

 

With the K-14 you need to guesstimate the lead angle yourself.

 

This is why the K-14 remains fixed and the EZ42 moves slightly when the aircraft changes it's attitude (slightly).

 

Minor quibble... the K-14 does NOT remain fixed when used as intended (in the "gyro" or "both" setting on the dial to the left of the front canopy rail, and with the gyro switch just to the left of that in the down/right "on" position), it calculates lead exactly as the EZ42 does. The difference is that the K-14 can simultaneously display a fixed AND gyro reticle, while the EZ42 can only show the gyro reticle.

[wolfstriked]

I know that the sight is supposed to move to show lead but that is not what I meant.The head camera use to rotate in a set position so that if you turned your view as far right as you could and still see the revi the crosshair would still be centered in it.With new eye camera implementation you turn your head only slightly and the crosshair moves outside of the revi.This makes for a wallowing feeling unless you keep your head perfectly still.The problem is that if you want to look around and dogfight in these planes then you need a high sensitivity in trackir.

[wolfstriked]

Actually,its not trackir as the crosshair moves out of revi when using the numpad keys.

[Flagrum]

Minor quibble... the K-14 does NOT remain fixed when used as intended (in the "gyro" or "both" setting on the dial to the left of the front canopy rail, and with the gyro switch just to the left of that in the down/right "on" position), it calculates lead exactly as the EZ42 does. The difference is that the K-14 can simultaneously display a fixed AND gyro reticle, while the EZ42 can only show the gyro reticle.

Ah, ok, thanks. (quite some time since I sat in the Mustang the last time ...)

[Flagrum]

I know that the sight is supposed to move to show lead but that is not what I meant.The head camera use to rotate in a set position so that if you turned your view as far right as you could and still see the revi the crosshair would still be centered in it.With new eye camera implementation you turn your head only slightly and the crosshair moves outside of the revi.This makes for a wallowing feeling unless you keep your head perfectly still.The problem is that if you want to look around and dogfight in these planes then you need a high sensitivity in trackir.

The crosshair of the K-14 seems to move (optically, due to the changed view angle) as well when I turn my head - that is not in relation to the target, but in relation to the projection glass pane. This is also the case for the EZ42 - I could not see anything that I would consider unusual here. The thing is, the glass pane of the EZ42 is much smaller (i.e. less wide) than that of the K-14 and thus the reticle can "leave" the pane more easily.

 

Or maybe you are using a "weired" FoV setting?

[wolfstriked]

Sorry,disregard this whole post.I was confused by the range changing the crosshair to very small and moving all over the place.And to add to that my default cockpit view got changed so where I had to look left a good amount to center the crosshairs.Its all working as intended now.

[Flagrum]

:D :thumbup:

[Wolf Rider]

 

Japanese unit, but you get the idea

[wolfstriked]

Nice video,thanks.That japanese sight reminded me of how in IL2 it was so bright that you couldn't see thru it.:megalol: