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Alright, here's another for you

 

 

 

 

Sortie from first radar contact to the last kill, on the 104th server, hapened to be packed 51/51 slots full, target rich environment :D

 

First kill with an R-13M1, 2nd kill (way overkill) with both my R-3Rs, and 3rd with my last R-13M1,

 

I know the first and last kills are SU-27's but I'm not sure what the second was, as it explodes mid-air...

 

it's in 1080p but might still be processing if you only get 480p

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And I figured since this one is a lot shorter, I'd post it as well

 

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well its not the first time i've killed 3, few times before as well, i've killed 4 once too, with R-3Rs.... but I didn't record them, and I have too many tracks to go through to find them again, but I'm sure i can do it again, will record next time.

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Finished the Guardians of the Caucus campaign tonight. More screens.

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Also flew a 5-ship on the 104th... One guy killed 3 with an AIM-120 in a matter of seconds, as well as got another with an AIM-9. I managed to escape and was met with another F-15 when firing on the original.

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yeah I was there when they were doing that, but was like... no thanks...

 

yeah it looks cool having a bunch of mig-21s in close formation, but really, to avoid giving noobraam/spamraam/aim120noobs multi-kills (not gonna say F-15 pilots, cause once the missiles off the pylon the aim-120 is its own self-contained aircraft), you need to fly more like how santi and I flew

 

it doesn't look as pretty, but it means if anyone dies, there might be enough time for the others to escape and find the enemy.

 

but not trying to say F-15 pilots always use aim-120s, they don't.


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yeah I was there when they were doing that, but was like... no thanks...

 

yeah it looks cool having a bunch of mig-21s in close formation, but really, to avoid giving noobraam/spamraam/aim120noobs multi-kills (not gonna say F-15 pilots, cause once the missiles off the pylon the aim-120 is its own self-contained aircraft), you need to fly more like how santi and I flew

 

it doesn't look as pretty, but it means if anyone dies, there might be enough time for the others to escape and find the enemy.

 

Yep. We just got done with the campaign and they wanted to fly more. I was the only one that didn't get slapped by the spamraams hahaha

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So I'm like "Hey, I know... I'll take two groms and 4 R-60Ms" ,well i missed with one of my groms, but my other hit an AA vehicle, and i got out ok

 

then, since i had the R-60M's i went over to the enemies TA at krasnodar, so I was just flying along directly over the city, and all of a sudden picked up a friendly on my radar,

 

I look up and see a mig-21 chasing an F-15, then the someone tells me it's him in the 21 on comms, has no missiles left,

he shoots at him with his guns, misses, the F-15 rolls in on him, the guy on comms tells me to kill the F-15, so I go in and do just that.

 

I believe the other mig-21 pilot was Sweeper, gotta let me know.

 


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first kill i got with an R-13M1, The second kill is pretty fun, I fire two R-60Ms, one nearly hits, finally hit him with my 2nd R-13M1, he actually puts up a fight :D

 

 

 

Well I'd like you to comment on my videos, any feedback, negative or positive, tips on video editing (other than using shadowplay), etc., as long as it's productive, would be welcome.


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MiG-21 strikes again... We really wanted to kill him . Splashed 3 missiles and the 4th went through the debris field.

 

Holy overkill batman, epic annialation I couldn't stop laughing for like 10 minutes after I saw that gif.

 

He must a shat himself

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Holy overkill batman, epic annialation I couldn't stop laughing for like 10 minutes after I saw that gif.

 

He must a shat himself

 

It was even funnier in person. We had a 5-ship of -21s and were RTB from the AO. 3 were less than 1200L, but myself and another still had 1900L, so we decided to defend the rear because we knew the F-15 would be somewhere near us, as he was talking crap on all the -21s. Well, as we turn to scan the area we see a lone contrail. Both of us stayed low and lit the burners, then zoom-climbed to fire. We were only 30km from home plate and I didn't feel like landing imbalanced so I fired both of my R-3Rs when I noticed the target start to explode, then realized that my wingman also fired off both of his. If you notice on the gif, the F-15 was blown up so bad after the 3rd missile that there wasn't any piece of the remaining F-15 for my last R-3R to lock on to, and flew right through the debris field. Easily one of the funniest moments I've had in DCS.

 

EDIT: Well, I tried to cut the video to show you guys but shadowplay decided to record in 0.25fps. The soundbite is too good to not share the awful video though.

 

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Taylor that is too funny!! Ran out of time to fly with you tonight but I'll link up with you again.

 

Anyway I had a short fun session on the 104th. I was hunting near the red tgt area and saw a jet taxiing at Maykop which is the red a/o. Suprisingly the r13 tracked it and I fired. Ended up killing a friendly, sorry Tango 117.

 

Turns out the base starts as blue, so despite the fact that ground vehicles were blowing up around it being attacked by red a10s, he still made it down safely. It turns to a red base after the targets are destroyed. So my mistake. His clanmate then quickly shot me down in retaliation ( I don't blame him lol).

 

Anyway shortly after I end up joining in with the 117 guys and fly as a 4th 21 in their formation. All of a sudden the leader breaks as we make contact with an enemy 15, I try to find it but one of our migs was shot down :(. I quickly find the attacking f15 visually and hit him with an r-13m1...Ironically the Mig who got shot down, was the guy who team killed me in retaliaton for Tango.. so I retaliated his death..weird circumstance lol

 

Anyway I also later on get fired at by a f15, dive low and he ends up flying over me without noticing that he did. I get behind him and hit him with an r13m1 as well.

 

Both 15s I killed were on the deck so interestingly I couldn't use my radar to lock or iff them.

 

I now have MUCH more faith in the R13m1 vs the r60m. I have had good luck with the 13s range, tracking, and damage done to target, and I have never seen a fighter survive a hit. R60m for me has had range, tracking and damage problems for me, as I have had the missile go stupid many times, and I have even had f15s limp home after being hit by one. R13m1s despite being older don't seem to chase flares any worse than the r60m does.

 

However, If the enemy is smart with flares the 60 has an advantage in that you can carry double the number. It may also be slightly more maneuverable in a dogfight setting but I believe the 13 is much better overall

 

Sorry guys wish I had videos for you but I'm not sure how to make them. Just imagine my stories if they were out of a book ;).


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so after all this time, I've finally figured out how to shut off the damned missile tone... the launch override/bomb arming switch behind the stick... toggle it... just thought i'd get that out there...

 

and i've come to the same conclusion: R-13M1 is a better missile, R-60Ms allow for bigger mistakes cause you can carry more of them. so that's why recently my standard loadout is 4x R60M and 2x R13M1


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Another F-15 dogfight, this guy tries for a gun kill...

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Ey! nice kill!

 

 

The f15's should not engage dogfight ... It is bad in this area. this is often fatal.

the Mig 21 was used against f15 in real, but it is shattered :D. We need F-100 for balance

 

 

 

I show you my favorite kill of all mine

 


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