Alkaline Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Hi, I've always been flying with default curves, but some people have special curves. So, how should I setup my cyclic stick? I have the Saitek X-55 RHINO X-55 Rhino guide to configure the Mouse Nipple to work as TDC slew! My rig AMD FX-8320 @ 4.4GHz 8GB RAM R9 270x 2GB SSD Win 8.1 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svend_Dellepude Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Curves can be very helpful, but don't overdo it. I think you can find a spot between 10 and 20. Higher than that you start to have unprecise control at high G. A lower saturation on Y-axis can be very helpful too. You wont be able to pull 15 G's but you will have better overall control. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devrim Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 30% is too much for me. 15-20% is good for formation flight. Even 20% may be too much for many pilots though... Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 Super SuprimX | Corsair V. 32GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | Saitek X-55 Rhino & Rudder | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentGun Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 my curves are 16 for rudder and 32 for x and y Link to my Imgur screenshots and motto http://imgur.com/a/Gt7dF One day in DCS... Vipers will fly along side Tomcats... Bugs with Superbugs, Tiffy's with Tornado's, Fulcrums with Flankers and Mirage with Rafales... :)The Future of DCS is a bright one:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 Ok, thanks for every reply! Im gonna experiment a little later with the values I got here. Im also trying to figure out how I can assign my "Mouse nipple" on my X-55 Rhino throttle to aileron & elevator in DCS. My idea was to use the mouse nipple when landing the aircraft, and have it configured so it is very UN-sensitive. X-55 Rhino guide to configure the Mouse Nipple to work as TDC slew! My rig AMD FX-8320 @ 4.4GHz 8GB RAM R9 270x 2GB SSD Win 8.1 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svend_Dellepude Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 :lol: You said nipple again.. :lol: You will need to be able to disable input from your stick in order to control the axis with another controller. The game will always stick with the last input made, so if your stick is a little spikey it will take over all the time. If you can program somekind of "lock axis", "switch axis" or "disable axis" like you can with the warthog controller you can do it. But try beginning with a curve setting of 15 and work from there and soon you will find out what works with your controller and you will land just fine without switching controller. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 I just gotta say, im not having problems or anything, im just searching for different tweaks. I've been flying with linear curve for 6months, but ima try now :D X-55 Rhino guide to configure the Mouse Nipple to work as TDC slew! My rig AMD FX-8320 @ 4.4GHz 8GB RAM R9 270x 2GB SSD Win 8.1 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svend_Dellepude Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I've been doing it for years and now i don't have a twitchy aircraft anymore. Control is very smooth and feels much more natural with a bit of curving. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaline Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 curvature as 15 on pitch and roll axis is incredible! Gosh, what a difference! X-55 Rhino guide to configure the Mouse Nipple to work as TDC slew! My rig AMD FX-8320 @ 4.4GHz 8GB RAM R9 270x 2GB SSD Win 8.1 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuge Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I use 30 on pitch, roll, and yaw. It's both a matter of taste and a matter of joystick :smilewink: http://www.104thphoenix.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devrim Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 By the way, is there any solution for joysticks for that if I move stick very slow, it will act like curvature is at 30%, but if I move stick fast, it will act like no curvature.. etc... Hm? Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 Super SuprimX | Corsair V. 32GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | Saitek X-55 Rhino & Rudder | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLP Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 (edited) I used to use crazy user defined curves on my logitech attack 3 to overcome the abyssimal precision it had. This was the only way I could hover the huey or refuel the 15/a10. It is a trade-off: the stick becomes much more precise near the centered position, but imprecise far from it. So high-g/high-alpha flying becomes really uncomfortable, and you need to trim a lot. Now I use my home-built hall sensor stick and I didn't touch curves at all anymore. Edit: attached typical curve I used on the logitech Edited December 30, 2014 by PLP [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordWizard Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I have Saitek X-55 HOTAS + Saitek Cessna pro rudders and I have all three set to: 5% dead-space 30% curve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svend_Dellepude Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 By the way, is there any solution for joysticks for that if I move stick very slow, it will act like curvature is at 30%, but if I move stick fast, it will act like no curvature.. etc... Hm? Maybe you have a problem with the pot's or the soldering somewhere. My CH pedals sometimes suffer from a similar problem but the wiring is not soldered, but crimped. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappie Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 By the way, is there any solution for joysticks for that if I move stick very slow, it will act like curvature is at 30%, but if I move stick fast, it will act like no curvature.. etc... Hm? 60% curve & 80% horizontal with no dead zone and 100% vertical for x and y axis. Z axis is 25% curve. This is a precision flying setup and requires a stick with no center return spring and smooth movements. I use the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro that has the spring removed for x and y axis. Still retains the z axis spring although I may remove it as well. This is a perfect stick for helo flying offering smoothest and slightest pressure alleviating wrist fatigue and arm muscle issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devrim Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Maybe you have a problem with...Ah, I'm sorry, I guess I couldn't express myself. I have (my HOTAS has) no such problem. I just wish for a feature. Generally I fly with avg. 20% curv. But sometimes I feel it would be better if it was 30%, but at the same time I need more rapid response (no curv). So, I just dreamed like this feature mentioned in my prev. message. :) Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 Super SuprimX | Corsair V. 32GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | Saitek X-55 Rhino & Rudder | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svend_Dellepude Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Ahaaa! misunderstood you. :) But i guess that feature could be kinda cool. Some sort of dynamic axis.. If you have a TM WH you can do something else but also useful by assigning more axis to f.ex. elevators, fiddle with the saturation and then swapping the axis around depending on what you need. Dunno if you can do the same with other controllers. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devrim Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Exactly what you said; "dynamic". :) I have X52Pro, and I don't think it has some ability to do that... Well, OK... :) Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 Super SuprimX | Corsair V. 32GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | Saitek X-55 Rhino & Rudder | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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