Random Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Just been trying to get a friend into DCS using the TF-51 and it being the first time I've used it a few things strike me. Firstly it feels a lot lighter than the P51. I accept that it should as its a civilian aircraft without the fuel tank in the back or any military equipment. However there are a few issues with the FM I feel need some attention. For example there is no apparant change in trim with speed or power settings. No change in trim with landing gear. An increase in lift is noted with flaps but again no nose down pitch change. This is just what I noticed in some basic flights with my friend. Drag seems off too as its very hard to scrub speed on finals compared to the P51. The free modules are supposed to be the bait on the hook. They need to really show off what sets DCS apart from the other sims out there. I can't speak for the SU25T as I've not flown it yet but the TF51 doesn't do DCS any favours right now, it feels like just anotjer sim. Surely it would be possible to port the P51 FM straight over and just limit the armaments to nothing but smoke and the rear tank to always be empty? This would at least give the TF51 that special little spark most of the DCS flight models have. This isn't meant to be a complaint or moan. Just I feel it may have been overlooked by the community as a whole just how much the TF51 matters for attracting new customers. Incidently I think my friend may be buying the P51 pretty soon to try the full fat version after I explained how much more it offers in fidelity.
Art-J Posted January 1, 2015 Posted January 1, 2015 Well, its empty weight is about 260 kg lower. Cannot agree with Your trim observations, though. Just did a short flight and the plane required constant trimming in all axes while testing different power settings and speeds. There also was a noticeable pitch down when dropping gear and flaps, not immediate, but still, after a couple of seconds and inevitable speed drop, lots of elevator trim was needed to dial it out. Approach and landing seemed similar to P-51D too. Are You sure Your game/simulation flight mode trim key/button assignments didn't get reset after last patch? I know mine did, had to set them up again. i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10.
Random Posted January 1, 2015 Author Posted January 1, 2015 First time flying it so it was all mapped from scratch. I NEVER use game mode.
Random Posted January 4, 2015 Author Posted January 4, 2015 Update: still no pitch trim change with power/speed but I'm starting to think I've got a bad install as all the props are rediculous at the moment for me. With axis conflicts and the controls thrashing about, they all take off like on rails with only the rudder control being useable.
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