best dogfighting technique?

[pepto]

hi all! i was recently messing with the ai mig-15 and quickly realized that the biggest issue i had was having not nearly enough energy to keep up with the AI in many cases. my question here is if i should instead focus on trying to lure the mig into a turn fight rather than constantly chasing it up in the vertical and stalling out. or maybe im just bad and need experience :P or is the mig AI still a little wonky?

[f86enthusiast]

hi all! i was recently messing with the ai mig-15 and quickly realized that the biggest issue i had was having not nearly enough energy to keep up with the AI in many cases. my question here is if i should instead focus on trying to lure the mig into a turn fight rather than constantly chasing it up in the vertical and stalling out. or maybe im just bad and need experience :P or is the mig AI still a little wonky?

 

This technique is gaming the system since it seems the Mig is using the SFM giving him quite an advantage but it works for now. The AI is fairly predictable as well allowing you to almost foresee his next move into the vertical. If you have decent airspeed follow him in the vertical and he should stall out in front of you giving you several shot opportunities. Thank Invisibull for teaching me this technique.

 

Disclaimer and this hasn't been modeled but I'd suspect these zero airspeed departures at the top would cause at least a little reverse airflow down the tailpipe locking in a compressor stall or flaming out the F86 and Mig. For some reason this doesn't seem to be the case.

 

Also make sure you use the sight to its full advantage. It's use changes night to day.

Edited January 1, 2015 by f86enthusiast

[gavagai]

hi all! i was recently messing with the ai mig-15 and quickly realized that the biggest issue i had was having not nearly enough energy to keep up with the AI in many cases. my question here is if i should instead focus on trying to lure the mig into a turn fight rather than constantly chasing it up in the vertical and stalling out. or maybe im just bad and need experience :P or is the mig AI still a little wonky?

 

The AI cheats like crazy, but it is still possible to shoot it down. I like to lure it into a scissors and use an overshoot to get on its 6, and then it will make defensive maneuvers instead of going into vertical-climb mode where I probably won't be able to follow.

[pepto]

so basically just practice until i can predict him?

and yeah the A-4 is a true godsend, the more i learn about it's general usage in both air-to-air and air-to-ground the more impressed i get seeing how advanced it is compared to something like the K-4, which is still pretty cool in itself considering it being in a time period of fixed gunsights

[f86enthusiast]

so basically just practice until i can predict him?

and yeah the A-4 is a true godsend, the more i learn about it's general usage in both air-to-air and air-to-ground the more impressed i get seeing how advanced it is compared to something like the K-4, which is still pretty cool in itself considering it being in a time period of fixed gunsights

 

For now sorta. Gavagai's advice works as well but nothing beats having his energy bled down only to see him go into the vertical with a 2:1 Thrust to Weight Ratio. February can't come fast enough.

[pepto]

sounds good! thanks a bunch guys