Anatoli-Kagari9 Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 As we all know, the K4 is prone to loose it's wingtips.... As a MP session this afternoon I lost both after strafing a convoy of enemy trucks and pulling out of the dive probably too aggressively :-/ Anyway, I was not alone - one of the other players was also in the same situation as I started "F2"-ing for other players in the session :-) Both managed to get back to our airfield, using only rudder and elevator. It worked best for him who was smart enough not to try to use the gear, and belly land - He came out of that landing alive :-) I was stupid enough ( excess of confidence... ) to use the gear... Bad idea... Anyway, through all of the flight, since I lost both wingtips and ailerons, and apart from the flames that probably would kill me before arriving back to my airfield, all of the responses from the flight dynamics model were very plausible, and I actually think it could be possible IRL too. I particularly liked to taste the very plausible yaw-induced roll, the responses to power changing, etc... Very good! Flight Simulation is the Virtual Materialization of a Dream...
SlipBall Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 Yes it is done very well I think...your story reminded me of that P-47 pilot who only had his trim wheel left to use, to get back to base and land with it and the engine power
Sporg Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) Well, it can be done with gear also. I did have one wing tip (-stump!) on the ground, but survived the landing. I have succeeded landing with one wing tip missing as well, but there of course you can still use aileron. PS The screenshots are from two different sessions: First one was on Virtual Aerobatics server, and didn't have time to take screens during flight. ;-) The second one is from a single player training, so could use the track to take nice pictures. :) PPS jcomm, you are right about the amazing flight dynamics too. Edited January 26, 2015 by Sporg 1 System specs: Gigabyte Aorus Master, i7 9700K@std, GTX 1080TI OC, 32 GB 3000 MHz RAM, NVMe M.2 SSD, Oculus Quest VR (2x1600x1440) Warthog HOTAS w/150mm extension, Slaw pedals, Gametrix Jetseat, TrackIR for monitor use
LcSummers Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 Well, it can be done with gear also. I did have one wing tip (-stump!) on the ground, but survived the landing. I have succeeded landing with one wing tip missing as well, but there of course you can still use aileron. PS The screenshots are from two different sessions: First one was on Virtual Aerobatics server, and didn't have time to take screens during flight. ;-) The second one is from a single player training, so could use the track to take nice pictures. :) PPS jcomm, you are right about the amazing flight dynamics too. Its only possible if you have not an firing enemy ac behind you:music_whistling: Thats my experience.:lol:
Sporg Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Its only possible if you have not an firing enemy ac behind you:music_whistling: Thats my experience.:lol: Hehe, well, that's another situation alltogether.. However, I stumbled across this picture online: An american plane limping home, with roughly half of the left wing lost. Just to show (myself also) that our experiences are not entirely unrealistic. System specs: Gigabyte Aorus Master, i7 9700K@std, GTX 1080TI OC, 32 GB 3000 MHz RAM, NVMe M.2 SSD, Oculus Quest VR (2x1600x1440) Warthog HOTAS w/150mm extension, Slaw pedals, Gametrix Jetseat, TrackIR for monitor use
IIIJG52_Otto_ Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) As we all know, the K4 is prone to loose it's wingtips.... ...Anyway, through all of the flight, since I lost both wingtips and ailerons, and apart from the flames that probably would kill me before arriving back to my airfield, all of the responses from the flight dynamics model were very plausible, and I actually think it could be possible IRL too. I particularly liked to taste the very plausible yaw-induced roll, the responses to power changing, etc... Very good! Obviously, the FM of the bf-109K4 is much more advanced than the DM. As was discussed in another thread, the fuselage and wings Bf-109G and later, endured loads close to 12 G's: It is a joke that a Bf-109 miss the wing tips on 4 G's maneuvers (or 6 or 7 G's after the patch 1.2.14). It is a joke too that if you break the wingtip, the plane leaves burning. The Bf-109K4 had no outer fuel tanks in the wings. The only thing, susceptible of explosion, were spherical oxygen bottles located in the center of the left wing. Edited January 28, 2015 by III/JG52_Otto_+ 1 http://www.jagdgeschwader52.net
Anatoli-Kagari9 Posted January 28, 2015 Author Posted January 28, 2015 Otto, excellent drawing and info! Thank you! Flight Simulation is the Virtual Materialization of a Dream...
BFBunny Posted January 29, 2015 Posted January 29, 2015 Otto, excellent drawing and info! Thank you! P-58 of the DCS bf109 K4 flight manual. Whenever I break my wings I pretend the plane is going to burn down and eject when safe to do so. Such a wtf moment when I did this first. 'Where the heck is that fire from? It's going to burn down soon. Oh, it has gone out...' I assumed there was some fuel in the wings (noob aircraft guy) till I read the manual. White smoke to sim the air going out, but fire. It's the simpsons all over again.
Anatoli-Kagari9 Posted January 30, 2015 Author Posted January 30, 2015 P-58 of the DCS bf109 K4 flight manual. Oops! :-) Anyway, I think I can accept some flames building up as a result of the impacts on the fuselage... Flight Simulation is the Virtual Materialization of a Dream...
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