xoxen Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) Hi Folks, I´m actually thinking about buying a Hotas Warthog. There is a sale at Amazon Germany for 270,-€ which is quite "cheap". But is it worth it? I'm flying A-10C only. Actually I have a Hotas Cougar with Magoo´s Mod which makes it nearly without any play and also nearly no wear. It is in perfect shape, so this does not justify the invest (beside of this I have a lot of spare parts like springs, every knob etc. just for the case....) So I would like to know more about the way the Warthog performs compared to the Cougar. The detailed question is if I will see an "Ahhhh!!!!"-Effect in regards to sensitivity/accuracy? I have played around a lot with courves and in general I´m satisfied with my Cougar. The question is if I will see an advantage e.g. in AAR with the Warthog as it might be more precise? It´ll be great to get some answers from someones who made this step already as 270,-€ is cheap for the Warthog but are still 270,-€! And I own a great piece of Hotas already. Thanks in advance and all the best, Xoxen Edited April 19, 2015 by xoxen AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus, 64GB Crucial Ballistix DDR4-3600 CL16, Asus TUF Gaming RTX 4080 OC, Windows 11 64bit Home Premium, TrackIR 5 with TrackClip: Pro!, Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base + TM Warthog Stick + 7cm extension + WINWING Orion 2 with F-15EX grips, Cougar MFDs with 8" displays, Saitek Rudder Pedals, Samsung Odyssey G9 49" 5120x1440 @120 Hz
mrwell Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Hi, I own both actually. I modded cougar with FCC3. Warthog stick is way far batter in precission. It uses hall effect sensor for both axis. And it doesn't have any diagonal stopper, I mean cougar can only make x & y movements but not pure diagonals due to its construction. Initially I like it best cougar throttle sensitivity but i got use to warthog one and now I see no difference. I modded cougar throttle too with hall effect potentiometer... I don't need to mod warthog noway ;) Have fun!
xoxen Posted April 20, 2015 Author Posted April 20, 2015 Hi mrwell, many thanks for the writing. This is exactly the type of feedback I would like to listen to. Even though it is the more expensive way to go ;) Unfortunately I missed the weekend sale but now I can start thinking more precisely :) Many thanks again and it´ll be great to listen to some more experiences. Xoxen AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus, 64GB Crucial Ballistix DDR4-3600 CL16, Asus TUF Gaming RTX 4080 OC, Windows 11 64bit Home Premium, TrackIR 5 with TrackClip: Pro!, Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base + TM Warthog Stick + 7cm extension + WINWING Orion 2 with F-15EX grips, Cougar MFDs with 8" displays, Saitek Rudder Pedals, Samsung Odyssey G9 49" 5120x1440 @120 Hz
Greekbull Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 I've had the same experience as Mrwell. The stick is a very big upgrade IMO. The throttle is a nice upgrade too especially with the A-10. No programing needed the game recognizes it abd you get a fully functional Hotas setup. The cougar was a nice piece of kit but I'm very happy with my upgrade. AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D | ASUS Crosshair Hero X670E | 64GB G Skill Trident Z DDR5 6000 | Nvidia RTX 4090 FE| Samsung EVO Plus 6 TB M.2 PCIe SSDs | TM Hornet Stick/WinWing Hornet Throttle and MIP | VPForce Rhino FFB Base | TM TPR Rudder Pedals W/Damper | Varjo Aero/Pimax Crystal | NeoEngress NACES Seat VFA-25 Fist of the Fleet Carrier Strike Group One(CSG-1) Discord
xoxen Posted April 21, 2015 Author Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) Thanks, this also directs me more and more into the Warthog direction. I also found some older threads in other forums saying the same. Actually my wife is the only one who is not convinced so far (something I didn´t take into consideration), even though your arguments are brilliant and I used them ;) Edited April 21, 2015 by xoxen AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus, 64GB Crucial Ballistix DDR4-3600 CL16, Asus TUF Gaming RTX 4080 OC, Windows 11 64bit Home Premium, TrackIR 5 with TrackClip: Pro!, Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base + TM Warthog Stick + 7cm extension + WINWING Orion 2 with F-15EX grips, Cougar MFDs with 8" displays, Saitek Rudder Pedals, Samsung Odyssey G9 49" 5120x1440 @120 Hz
Shaman Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 Owning both Cougar and Warthog, would do the purchase of Warthog again if I had to. 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer
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