Su-25T benefits

[Stealth_HR]

To explain the thread subject a bit, I'm planning on buying Flaming Cliffs sometime this month. Being a Grach driver, I can already tell I'm going to like the 25T, but so far I haven't been able to find a comprehensive list of just what differences I can expect with the new flight model. For the sake of anyone else who's pondering about buying FC, can someone list the major differences between the Su-25 and the Su-25T (HUD and TVM aside)?

[Force_Feedback]

-Greater weight (read worse performance)

-SEAD capability

-Antitank capability (Vikhr)

-Better damage model+ external model

-IR jammer

-Night vision pod

-R-73s Har Har

[brewber19]

To explain the thread subject a bit, I'm planning on buying Flaming Cliffs sometime this month. Being a Grach driver, I can already tell I'm going to like the 25T, but so far I haven't been able to find a comprehensive list of just what differences I can expect with the new flight model. For the sake of anyone else who's pondering about buying FC, can someone list the major differences between the Su-25 and the Su-25T (HUD and TVM aside)?

 

Hi Stealth,

 

ForceFeedback listed most of them, but I'll try to be a bit more flattering...I am, of course, biased (see my sig and our squad:D).

 

Ok, as far as the Advanced Flight Model (AFM) goes, compared to 1.02 both the Su-25 and Su-25T now fly and "feel" as if they have "weight" and "momentum".

 

For example, if in 1.02 you yank and bank in a Frog, the plane turns very promptly and in control (to me it feels like its on rails). Now, in FC (1.12a), if you yank and bank in a 25 or 25T then its very likely the A/C will stall out and flutter to the ground (less so in a 25 but...).

 

Anyways, the AFM makes the Frog fly much more realistically than the other A/C in the game BUT...you do have to fly with alot more consideration of your speed and angle of attack etc - its a real challenge, especially in mountainous terrain.

 

What else? Well, in terms of the 25T you have a fairly useful HUD, TV monitor for locking targets visually (up to 23x zoom), low-light TV pod for night missions and the fantasmagoria which shows on the HUD what SAM systems are painting you...you can then either ram a 25MPU or KH58 missile down its throat OR, slave the TV pod to the Fantasmagoria and whack the target with a Vikr....a vikr is a laser guided anti-armour/ground target weapon with a 10km range.

 

Think Brewber, think, what else? Erm..as FF said, you can carry R73s now as well as R60s, but I prefer to use Vikr against air targets as well...takes a bit of practise but the enemy gets no warning at all.

 

You also have a thing called an IR jammer pod (in the tail)....which means IR missiles fired at you are prematurely detonated so they are less likely to kill you...particularly effective against stingers/Avengers.

 

In a nutshell, it was like a brand-new game for me, as well as the textures and game running far better, smoother and better looking than any previous version of LOMAC....for me at least. Refer to my sig for PC spec but offline I get between 35 and 50FPS, versus 20-50 online.

 

Hope you make the move to FC, IMHO I think you'll love it if you already fly the Frog, as that was the most challenging A/C in 1.02....so I'm sure you'll appreciate FC.....and Black Shark will be out this year as well, which should bring additional improvements, as well as a chopper (Cool, I'm a rotorhead at heart).

 

If you do upgrade, hope to see you on our server, all missions are A2G as well as A2A, and we're also hoping to bring back "Hogs and Frogs" days on Saturdays...so all those girlie fighter jocks will have to amuse themselves elsewhere :D

 

Brewber out!

[Stealth_HR]

Thanks to both of you for the rapid replies. I have seen the Red Hammers around this and other forums for quite a while now - I'm looking forward to flying with you guys. :D