Vampyre Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 And I still don't care much for the A-6. These threads are pointless, because everyone expects a "yes!" and when someone says they would prefer something else others get upset. An A-6 would be a poor choice right now due to the lack of time period equipment. There is some overlap, but we're still missing a lot of older equipment. Carriers (US) are absent. It will require a whole lot of work. I would rather have a plane which can be utilized properly now than wait 2-3 years post release for appropriate units to go with it. Kind of like the WWII stuff. The only things they can go up against are the handful of prop planes. No bombers to escort, shoot down, or tanks to destroy. Once some of the time period correct equipment is filled in I'd be more interested. If work was started now I would not expect an Intruder module to be completed in 2-3 years. By that time we will have a lot more period specific units for a lot of the time periods (of which there are already a great many of in the A-6's case) and most likely a working carrier. The carrier is not a show stopper either because the Marines mostly used their Intruders from land bases anyway... so it is still realistic. By the logic put forth in that post, the ultra modern pointy nose multi-roles should not even be worked on until we finish the mid-90's era units. The only aircraft that you listed as what you consider to be a priority that even qualifies is the F-16A-D with the Block 50/52 initially delivered in 1991. Even then to be true to keeping with the time period it will be an unmodified airframe as well... so no JHCMS and earlier radar. The A-6E Intruder was not retired from service until 1997 so it is not an orphan aircraft either. DCS is a work in progress and until ED stops development it will always be that way. Not every plane, ship or vehicle will have a home when initially released. That's just the way it is. Steps are being taken to flesh out the environment and I believe we are in for some really pleasant surprises within the next year. Truly superior pilots are those that use their superior judgment to avoid those situations where they might have to use their superior skills. If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! "If at first you don't succeed, Carrier Landings are not for you!"
Flogger23m Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 If work was started now I would not expect an Intruder module to be completed in 2-3 years. By that time we will have a lot more period specific units for a lot of the time periods (of which there are already a great many of in the A-6's case) and most likely a working carrier. The carrier is not a show stopper either because the Marines mostly used their Intruders from land bases anyway... so it is still realistic. By the logic put forth in that post, the ultra modern pointy nose multi-roles should not even be worked on until we finish the mid-90's era units. The only aircraft that you listed as what you consider to be a priority that even qualifies is the F-16A-D with the Block 50/52 initially delivered in 1991. Even then to be true to keeping with the time period it will be an unmodified airframe as well... so no JHCMS and earlier radar. The A-6E Intruder was not retired from service until 1997 so it is not an orphan aircraft either. DCS is a work in progress and until ED stops development it will always be that way. Not every plane, ship or vehicle will have a home when initially released. That's just the way it is. Steps are being taken to flesh out the environment and I believe we are in for some really pleasant surprises within the next year. I'd like to share your enthusiasm, but we've had the P-51 for a long time now with no real development in that aspect. We do have terrian coming, but no word on how the AI units will be integrated. As for the modern stuff (~1980-modern), we have plenty of it in. SA-11, SA-10, T-90, M1A2, Challenger 2, C-17, E-2D, AH-64D, KA-50, MI-35, Su-34, the list goes on and on. We essentially have had an entire theatre full of comparable equipment since 2003's LOMAC. So a MIG-29, F-16, F-18, Su-27 ect. fits right in.
CheckGear Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 If work was started now I would not expect an Intruder module to be completed in 2-3 years. By that time we will have a lot more period specific units for a lot of the time periods (of which there are already a great many of in the A-6's case) and most likely a working carrier. The carrier is not a show stopper either because the Marines mostly used their Intruders from land bases anyway... so it is still realistic. By the logic put forth in that post, the ultra modern pointy nose multi-roles should not even be worked on until we finish the mid-90's era units. The only aircraft that you listed as what you consider to be a priority that even qualifies is the F-16A-D with the Block 50/52 initially delivered in 1991. Even then to be true to keeping with the time period it will be an unmodified airframe as well... so no JHCMS and earlier radar. The A-6E Intruder was not retired from service until 1997 so it is not an orphan aircraft either. DCS is a work in progress and until ED stops development it will always be that way. Not every plane, ship or vehicle will have a home when initially released. That's just the way it is. Steps are being taken to flesh out the environment and I believe we are in for some really pleasant surprises within the next year. Jeez, we're like the same person... I agree, overall. As much as I'd like to see the F-16 in DCS, its been done to death by the Falcon franchise. We've barely seen the A-6 or A-7. I'll take the F/A-18, preferably the C/D variant, if only because its been too long since its been simulated.
lmp Posted September 17, 2015 Posted September 17, 2015 An A-6 would be a poor choice right now due to the lack of time period equipment. There is some overlap, but we're still missing a lot of older equipment. Carriers (US) are absent. It will require a whole lot of work. I would rather have a plane which can be utilized properly now than wait 2-3 years post release for appropriate units to go with it. I can't say I really care for the A-6, but this is simply not true. The A-6E served from the 70s well into the 90s. AFAIK the last A-6 went off the production line after the last F-15C! There's plenty of appropriate equipment on both sides. Air defenses, ground units, aircraft of all sorts... A-6 aircraft even operated from the USS Carl Vinson.
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