Sholtz Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 HI all, I recently got Huey to add to my DCS collection and am having nothing but problems trying to get my CH Fighterstick and Pro Throttle working. It works fine for other games like Il-2, Falcon and Cliffs of Dover so I am convinced there are no issues with the hardware or CH Control Manager. I am seeing a lot of weirdness and am not sure if the game is seeing it properly - is there anything I need to do within DCS to make it behave? Here is what I see: Under Axis commands I have set the Throttle as I would like it, to work as a real collective with forward being down and backward being up. But if I try to fly it reverses it and shoots all the way up so I cant even take off because I get launched into orbit as soon as I click "fly". Also it seems like the game is not recognizing the mouse on the throttle - well it sort of does. I want it assigned to rudder since I do not have pedals and I do this in the other games. I only have 3 axis to choose from. Joy_x, Jo_y and joy_z. If I set the rudder to joy_x and fine tune it I can see it being controlled by the mouse on the throttle. Yet in game the mouse actually controls the cyclic. So does the Fighter stick. I see three columns under Axis controls: CH Control Manager CH Control Manager Virtual HID device What exactly does that mean? I dont really understand the way DCS presents the controls to me, it's nothing like any of the other sims I have played. I have tried without any profile loaded in CH Manager, downloaded a profile that works fine in Control Manager but most of the keys dont work in game. What does the button "Axis Assign" do? I click it and nothing happens. Getting frustrated here but hoping I am missing something simple :mad:
Sholtz Posted September 5, 2015 Author Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) I just noticed there is a seperate forum for the Huey, I didnt see that. Can this be moved over there by a mod? Also, I found this in the quick start guide: If you encounter a problem, particularly with controls, we suggest you back up and then delete your Saved Games\User Name\DCS\Config folder, EDIT: I found this folder and removed it as suggested, it recreated the config the same way - so I still see three columns, two called CH Control Manager and one called Virtual HID device. No idea what any of them are, or why it lists some axis that I dont even have, like rz_slider (There is no slider on either of these devices) Edited September 5, 2015 by Sholtz
WildBillKelsoe Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 ok, on each column in simulator menu/options/controls, click ANY input command row then click CLEAR CATEGORY below each column. Do this for all page, and for axis page (drop down). Once this is done, assign axes first by double clicking for example cyclic pitch, move the physical axis, and it should register, then click OK. Repeat for collective, rudder, etc as needed. Report back here once this is done. It sounds like the classic conflict or multiple assignments intervening with eachother. AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
TrigaNZ Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 When it shows CH Manager twice, one is your stick the other your throttle, so you have to assign axis to the correct column. Select Axis Commands from the drop down menu, find the axis you want to set, find the right column, double click the box, move that stick/rudder/ministick and it will populate. Click OK.
Sholtz Posted September 5, 2015 Author Posted September 5, 2015 Thanks guys, I cleared the categories and went to start over. After I double click on an axis it opens the dialog but neither the throttle nor the stick being moved around does anything. I tried all three columns with each one but nothing ever registers. My only option is the drop down Key/Button for Joy_x, Joy_y or joy_z Something seems really hosed up here. :/
TrigaNZ Posted September 5, 2015 Posted September 5, 2015 Are you using Control Manager? If you are you will need to load the profile and chose Mapped Mode. If you are not set it to Direct Mode then try again
WildBillKelsoe Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 it is like Kiwi said, CH control manager. Because I don't use it (who does?) I answered my reply. Let us know if Kiwi's solution works. AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
RazorbackNL Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 Are the axis of the stick and the throttle moving in the CH Manager? I had a problem with my CH Pro Pedals where the axis did not move. Try the test/calibration tab within the CH Manager and click on Rescan. This made my Pro Pedals work again. Hope it does the same for your controllers. Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (Wi-Fi) | AMD Ryzen 9 5900X @ 4,5Ghz | 128Gb DDR4 3200Mhz | beQuiet! Dark Power 12 1200W | 2 x 2Tb M.2 Samsung SSD | 2 x 4Tb M.2 Samsung SSD | Aorus RTX3090 Xtreme 24Gb | Windows 10 Pro x64 | HOTAS Cougar (heavily modified) | MFG Crosswind pedals | CH Throttle Quadrant | TrackIR5 | Oculus Quest 2 | VoiceAttack Aviate Navigate Communicate
Sholtz Posted September 6, 2015 Author Posted September 6, 2015 Are you using Control Manager? If you are you will need to load the profile and chose Mapped Mode. If you are not set it to Direct Mode then try again Yes, I am using Control Manager with a profile in mapped mode. I also tried with no profile in direct mode and without Control Manager running. The game behavior is the same in all cases. ;2467192']Are the axis of the stick and the throttle moving in the CH Manager? I had a problem with my CH Pro Pedals where the axis did not move. Try the test/calibration tab within the CH Manager and click on Rescan. This made my Pro Pedals work again. Hope it does the same for your controllers. Yes, the axis of both devices are moving in CH manager. In fact all of my other profiles work fine in the other sims. Huey is the only one giving me issues. Or maybe it is DCS, I am not real clear on that.
Sholtz Posted September 6, 2015 Author Posted September 6, 2015 Ok I decided to start clean because this is really bugging me. :) I uninstalled CH Control Manager, unplugged the devices, rebooted and made sure everything is gone. For good measure I rebooted again, checked device manager and game controller, no trace of anything. Moved the stick and throttle to different USB ports, Windows found them and it looks good. So far I do not have control manager installed. Removed the config directory and fired up DCS. Cleared all of the Axis categories then picked each axis. The Fighterstick will populate when I move it so good there. The throttle will not - if I choose the column CH Pro Throttle, double click collective it brings up the dialog but will not respond to any movement of the throttle. The only way I can get it to work is to manually put in joy_z. Still not able to do anything with the mouse on the throttle, but all of the buttons on both devices are being seen in game. Am wondering if I should just leave CH Control Manager off? I would really like to be able to assign a button to center Track IR but I am not sure how to do that unless there is an option in DCS somewhere. I really, really would like to be able to use the mouse for rudder like I do on all the other sims that I have. :cry:
WildBillKelsoe Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Do not use CH control manager. It effs up DCS recognition and for trackIR, center using mouse button 3 (middle mouse wheel button). AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
Sholtz Posted September 7, 2015 Author Posted September 7, 2015 I finally got the mouse axis working! So that's good news, although I don't understand why moving the axis doesn't populate like it should - but at least I can finally fly this thing. Well, attempt to anyway :pilotfly: Thanks for the tips and assistance guys!
WildBillKelsoe Posted September 7, 2015 Posted September 7, 2015 Glad you got it sorted. Happy whirling! AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
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