A bit OT, LESSON 2 MANPAD CREW OPERATIONS

[Weta43]

Some of you might find this interesting...

 

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/accp/ad0575/lesson2.htm#pe1

[Sleek]

Carefull Weta the police will think ur planning something naughty by looking at those instructions :)

[dynamocl]

That's what we need now, ASCOM, Advanced Stinger Crew Operations Model, including realistic eye movement for the operator, relating to correct visual identification of aircraft.

 

On a seperate note, the stinger appears to be able to interogate via IFF. When an aircraft is "interogated", is the pilot made aware that is happening? If not, would it be possible to monitor what is interogating you? I am thinking this is a prewarning that something nasty is looking at you, resulting in not having no warning of enemy launching at you. (not sure that applies to Iglas though).

[Weta43]

Sleek - yeah - I was wondering wether I was going to turn up on some security sevice's database as I was searching this

[Force_Feedback]

What about integrating the Dzighit back into lomac? Saw a screenie on that "advanced simulator" something site by ED, and, in a big hardware line-up there was the Dzighit. Will we see this beauty back in BS?

[Brit_Radar_Dude]

IguanaKing is doubtless the best man to answer these question as this is his area of expertise, but I'll give you my thoughts too.

 

 

 

...the stinger appears to be able to interogate via IFF.

 

If the Stinger operator has the belt pack IFF interrogator then Yes. Occasionally these are not supplied/needed eg. the Afghan's fighting the Soviets were not supplied with it as a) might fall into Soviet hands, b) not needed as all aircraft over the battlefield were Soviet and hence were hostile.

 

When an aircraft is "interogated", is the pilot made aware that is happening? If not, would it be possible to monitor what is interogating you? I am thinking this is a prewarning that something nasty is looking at you.

 

I have not heard of any RWR that operate on the SSR/IFF waveband. They all seem to use the PSR frequencies to classify the type of threat eg SPO-15 Beryoza shows airborne, SAM,AWACS etc. Some SSR/IFF control panels have a light to show when you are responding to an interrogation but that could equally be from a powerful long range radar many miles away or a closeby low power source.

 

 

The curious thing about that article is that it states the Stinger IFF will interrogate in Mode 4 (that makes sense) and if no correct mode 4 response is received, then would interrogate on Mode 3. I dont really understand that - do they program the Stinger IFF to mark certain Mode 3 responses as being friendly? I have never heard of that before, surely you would use Mode 2 in preference to Mode 3 since Mode 2 is a military only mode whereas Mode 3 is identical to the civilian Mode A.

Also my understanding is that in any serious conflict a pilot would disable his aircraft from responding to Mode 3/A and Mode C (and likely Mode 1 and 2) to avoid giving away his position to the enemy interrogations. Only Mode 4 has any form of encryption and even that is very primitive (1950's era).

[Weta43]

"Mode 3 is identical to the civilian Mode A"

 

Don't know anything about the modes, but are they just checking it's actually not civillian? (remember that US frigate shooting down the Iranian airliner in the gulf? Maybe they're being careful?)

[Brit_Radar_Dude]

A Mode 3/A response would not tell you whether an aircraft is civilian or military, it merely gives you the 4 digit (0000-7777 Octal) code allocated to that aircraft by Air Traffic Control authorities. The Mode 3/A code is changeable by the pilot using the control panel in the cockpit - as he flies from one ATC sector to another, he may need to change his code as requested by ATC.