DarkFire Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 I'm very happy with my ability to accurately and precisely fly my favourite aircraft, but other than having experience flying simulators for the past 20 years I actually know next to nothing about how to actually employ fighter planes in combat. I'm not interested in learning what happens to work in DCS, I want to learn actual tactics. I'm currently working my way through the following: "Fighter Combat: Tactics and Manoeuvring" by Robert Shaw. "Fighter Combat: Art & Science of Air-to-Air Warfare" also by Robert Shaw. "The Silver Spitfire" by Wg. Cdr. Tom Neil. "The First and the Last" by Adolf Galland. "Boyd" by Robert Coram. What would other people recommend? System Spec: Cooler Master Cosmos C700P Black Edition case. | AMD 5950X CPU | MSI RTX-3090 GPU | 32GB HyperX Predator PC4000 RAM | | TM Warthog stick & throttle | TrackIR 5 | Samsung 980 Pro NVMe 4 SSD 1TB (boot) | Samsung 870 QVO SSD 4TB (games) | Windows 10 Pro 64-bit. Personal wish list: DCS: Su-27SM & DCS: Avro Vulcan.
GGTharos Posted October 13, 2015 Posted October 13, 2015 Robert Shaw's stuff gives you some ideas but CNATRA material is more instructive, and used to teach real BFM. You may or may not be able to spot the differences, usually is hard without an actual instructor. Don't expect to find much on BVR. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
aaron886 Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Good books. Read first hand accounts of Desert Storm and smaller modern conflicts like Viper Pilot by Dan Hampton, they can help give you an impression of the complexity and scale of modern air war. It is interesting to contrast that book with Black Aces High by Robert Wilcox, not written by a fighter pilot. One interesting area to focus on in first-hand accounts is how tactics change in response to the air defense threat environment.
Falcon_S Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Online version: http://scilib.narod.ru/Avia/Bonanni/bonanni.htm#03-07 Quote Немој ништа силом, узми већи чекић! MSI Tomahawk MAX | Ryzen 7 3700x | 32GB DDR4 3200MHz | RX 5700 XT OC Red Dragon 8GB | VPC Throttle CM3 + VPC Constellation ALPHA on VPC WarBRD Base | HP Reverb G2 Youtube | Follow Me on TWITCH!
LuSi_6 Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 The biography of Erich Hartmann, Ace of aces of all time :pilotfly: Warthog HOTAS, Saitek Pedals, Oculus Rift :joystick:
Lucas_From_Hell Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 I can only recommend some WW2 and earlier reads, but they help a lot to get the fighter pilot spirit - an essential thing. Pierre Clostermann's The Big Show (Le Grand Cirque) is a good read. For virtual flying and particularly the psychology of the fighter pilot, In Pursuit (read it here) has some great stuff. Soak up whatever material you can find in English about Field Marshal Aleksandr Suvorov. I haven't had the chance to read all of it, but I found this USAF Air University paper that seems to contain a good basic overview of it here. Try to read whatever you can on Russian fighter pilots too, particularly Aleksandr Pokryshkin (who was a near-religious follower of Suvorov). The war in 1941 and 1942 put them at terrible odds, and it took lots of guts and skill to go up there and kill rather than be killed. Also, try to fly with a wingman whenever possible. Your tactical bag of tricks gets much wider that way.
DarkFire Posted October 14, 2015 Author Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) Thanks for the suggestions everyone, much appreciated! I may actually go all the way back to reading about von Richthofen since a lot of the basic techniques he pioneered in WW1 seem to still be relevant today. GGTharos - I take it by "CNATRA" you're referring to the Chief of Naval Air Training PAT Pubs? I've looked at the publicly available pubs... And my reading list just tripled :helpsmilie: lots of good information though. You're also right about BVR stuff, as far as publicly available material goes it's as if BVR doesn't even exist. I can only imagine that this is because BVR is where everybody's secret radar and missile capabilities come in to play the most. :huh: Edited to add: Does anyone know if there are publicly available copies of the following two articles: Warden, John A. III (September 1995), "Chapter 4: Air theory for the 21st century", Battlefield of the Future: 21st Century Warfare Issues (in Air and Space Power Journal), United States Air Force, retrieved December 26, 2008 Warden, John A. III (1995), "Enemy as a System", Airpower Journal, Spring (9): 40–55 Edited October 14, 2015 by DarkFire System Spec: Cooler Master Cosmos C700P Black Edition case. | AMD 5950X CPU | MSI RTX-3090 GPU | 32GB HyperX Predator PC4000 RAM | | TM Warthog stick & throttle | TrackIR 5 | Samsung 980 Pro NVMe 4 SSD 1TB (boot) | Samsung 870 QVO SSD 4TB (games) | Windows 10 Pro 64-bit. Personal wish list: DCS: Su-27SM & DCS: Avro Vulcan.
GGTharos Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 Yep, that CNATRA :) BVR is like BFM, but with longer sticks (a missile is a guided glider, you BFM it like you would an aircraft). But yes, BVR involves all this other fun stuff that tends to be pretty secret. You can catch glimpses here and there if you know where to look but generally like you said ... does not exist :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Bushmanni Posted October 14, 2015 Posted October 14, 2015 CNATRA PAT pubs have one manual that has some BVR stuff on it, mostly basic procedures (P-825. BASIC FIGHTER MANEUVERING (BFM) AND ALL WEATHER INTERCEPT (AWI) ). But for a noob it's a treasure trove. DCS Finland: Suomalainen DCS yhteisö -- Finnish DCS community -------------------------------------------------- SF Squadron
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