fable2omg Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 Let's start off with the wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B61_nuclear_bomb So it says that aircrafts such as the F-4 were able to carry the bomb, but somehow I can't find any information of the F-14B carrying one, was it because of politics in the 90's that they simply omitted the #1 navy fighter in the nuclear program? I find it very odd that it seems every single US fighter could fit one except the F-14.. ..So here's my question, does anyone know anything about it? If the F-4 had nuclear bombs it means carriers were built to carry those weapons, even the F/A-18 can carry one, so why not the F-14? And secondly, since Leatherneck sims were nice enough to include the first nuclear bomb in the DCS world, for game balance should they fit one into the F-14 anyway? I sure would love so, but realism comes first right?
probad Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 The F-4 and F-18 were designed as fighterbombers. The F-14 wasn't.
turkeydriver Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 The F-4 and F-18 were designed as fighterbombers. The F-14 wasn't. False. but that's a dead horse. The F-14 wasn't considered an expendable asset for nuclear weapon delivery when the carrier was full of A-6s and F-18s that were already wired for tactical nuke delivery. This mission was later viewed as near obsolete because of the tomahawk capability. The F-14 just wasn't wired to arm the device, but it had the room. It was just never explored. VF-2 Bounty Hunters https://www.csg-1.com/ DCS F-14 Pilot/RIO Discord: https://discord.gg/6bbthxk
jared9191 Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 False. but that's a dead horse. The F-14 wasn't considered an expendable asset for nuclear weapon delivery when the carrier was full of A-6s and F-18s that were already wired for tactical nuke delivery. This mission was later viewed as near obsolete because of the tomahawk capability. The F-14 just wasn't wired to arm the device, but it had the room. It was just never explored. Ya I think people may be getting ahead of themselves with all the hypothetical weapon configations on the F-14. There is a lot of room under that fuselage I know, but i think they should just stick to reality.
fable2omg Posted January 30, 2016 Author Posted January 30, 2016 There is a lot of room under that fuselage I know, but i think they should just stick to reality. Hence my post. I find it strange that every single aircraft in the US military could have one but the F-14. But if the US navy already had plenty of nuclear armed aircraft I guess it didn't really matter... ..Besides, the F-14A wasn't even cleared for iron bombs until 1992. I guess that's what made the F-14 so unique.
hvymtal Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) Let's start off with the wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B61_nuclear_bomb So it says that aircrafts such as the F-4 were able to carry the bomb, but somehow I can't find any information of the F-14B carrying one, was it because of politics in the 90's that they simply omitted the #1 navy fighter in the nuclear program? I find it very odd that it seems every single US fighter could fit one except the F-14.. ..So here's my question, does anyone know anything about it? If the F-4 had nuclear bombs it means carriers were built to carry those weapons, even the F/A-18 can carry one, so why not the F-14? And secondly, since Leatherneck sims were nice enough to include the first nuclear bomb in the DCS world, for game balance should they fit one into the F-14 anyway? I sure would love so, but realism comes first right? The MiG was A. wired and B. expected to have to use it in WW3. The Navy did not explore the F-14's attack capabilities for the first half of its life despite it having full CCIP and CCRP for the full catalogue of CBUs, Napalm, and LDGPs. The B61 and B83 were probably also buried in there as well. The Navy considered it irrelevant for its peacetime mission due to the amount of A-7s and A-6s they had available (which had much smaller RCS may I add) though you can bet your ass they would've cleared the F-14 right quick for everything should it have gotten toasty. And while it wasn't wired for mounting it it could have used INS CCRP with loft and just treat it like a CBU release due to the similar profile, with bomb configuration done in the weapons room. The F-14 wasn't considered an expendable asset for nuclear weapon delivery when the carrier was full of A-6s and F-18s that were already wired for tactical nuke delivery Another excellent reason, don't forget the Trident subs and Battleships, too, nuke tomahawks are certainly within the latter's mission parameters at the time, even if not carried in peacetime. Also by the time the F-14 was bomb-ready the Cold war was over, the B83 in process of retirement, and the B61 scaled back, so the Navy didn't bother to wire it. Note: I believe the mission parameters for the BB61 Class in the 80's were sea superiority using harpoons and the 16"s at shorter ranges, and naval gunfire support using hawks and the 16"s. Edited January 31, 2016 by hvymtal My Logitech Extreme3D Pro "Essentials" Profiles for FC3 and 25T: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/599930/ Thrustmaster T.16000M, TWCS FC3, F-5E, M2000C, AJS-37, C-101, F-14, NTTR
Sauerkraut Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 For use of nuclear bombs is still needed a special panel where the permissive action link (PAL) is activated / deactivated. PAL --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permissive_Action_Link panel --> http://www.glennsmuseum.com/controller/controller.html
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