ZHeN Posted May 3, 2016 Posted May 3, 2016 Can't hit heli's at any altitude with 530's :( every time they miss Am I doing something wrong ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Rlaxoxo Posted May 3, 2016 Posted May 3, 2016 Can't hit heli's at any altitude with 530's :( every time they miss Am I doing something wrong ? Not much the counter measure indicator is probably the same as default (0.5) which is basically 50/50 chance it gets spoofed by chaff 3 or probably 4 chaff is needed to make the missile miss and that probably won't change since it's you know ... DCS Missiles at it's finest Maybe if Razbam decides to change that it's up to them [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Youtube Reddit
Azrayen Posted May 3, 2016 Posted May 3, 2016 Probably true but... why waste a 530 against a heli anyway?:D
OldE24 Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 i am not sure everyone knows this or not but you can GHETTO amraam a 530 by launching in tws and STT when it gets out a ways and it will turn and track 8700k@4.7 32GB ram, 1080TI hybrid SC2
Azrayen Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 You shouldn't count on that too long: Razbam said they will implement more realistic fire limitations for the 530, and that would include the need for STT to be allowed to shoot. ;)
ZHeN Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 Not much the counter measure indicator is probably the same as default (0.5) which is basically 50/50 chance it gets spoofed by chaff 3 or probably 4 chaff is needed to make the missile miss and that probably won't change since it's you know ... DCS Missiles at it's finest Maybe if Razbam decides to change that it's up to them I'm having an extremely high Kill ratio of 530's against aircraft which are much more agile than heli's and they also spread chaff. Aprox 90% kill ratio (I always get TIR before launch) against aircraft. And 0% against heli's ... I guess that's not the way it should be. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
TheSnark Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 I've noticed that the missiles pretty much fire as soon as you depress the button, you do not need a lot or any special permissions. Perhaps that is not realistic?
nomdeplume Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 I'm having an extremely high Kill ratio of 530's against aircraft which are much more agile than heli's and they also spread chaff. Aprox 90% kill ratio (I always get TIR before launch) against aircraft. And 0% against heli's ... I guess that's not the way it should be. I think the radar has a hard time staying locked on to the helicopters, due to their slow speed. Basically they can notch you perfectly, almost without even trying. My experience tends to be the chopper will go evasive and my lock will drop shortly before the missile reaches the target, causing the missile to go stupid. From what I gather, the notch shouldn't be usable by helicopters since the rotors provide a strong return, but DCS has always allowed helicopters to hide from air-to-air radar by going slow, so...
ZHeN Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 I think the radar has a hard time staying locked on to the helicopters, due to their slow speed. Basically they can notch you perfectly, almost without even trying. My experience tends to be the chopper will go evasive and my lock will drop shortly before the missile reaches the target, causing the missile to go stupid. well, in my case choppers didn't tend to perform evasive maneuvers, they just flew the same path as before ... and my radar did not lose lock ... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
TheSnark Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 ZHeN, could you post a track showing what you did at what time stamp? Then we might have a good idea what went wrong. I've only shot at helicopters a few time but so far with a pretty good succes rate.
Azrayen Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 I've noticed that the missiles pretty much fire as soon as you depress the button, you do not need a lot or any special permissions. Perhaps that is not realistic? The PPA is not yet functional.
Conroy Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 Splash online a Mig-21 during the last weekend on the 104th with Matra S-530 and a Su-27 with Matra Magic. They works quite fine now. However is really easy lost the lock on the target, and there are no chances versus AIM-120.
TheSnark Posted May 4, 2016 Posted May 4, 2016 Well, no they are more alike the AIM-7M then the AIM-120. The 120 doesn't even need guidance compared to the 530D.
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