Socket7 Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) So. I must be doing something wrong, but I'm not sure what. :( Version 2.0.2.52658, Non-steam no mods hot start from parking spot on a rainy morning in nevada. Tested in single player only. Reliably reproducible. At 60 seconds and 260 seconds in the track, you will see me attempt to leave a stable hover by pitching the helicopter's nose down by pushing the cyclic forward. Instead, the nose pitches upwards. Before 260 seconds I even engage and disengage auto hover, to make sure it's not engaged. Continued forward pressure on the stick will continue to bring the nose up until it suddenly pitches violently downwards and normal cyclic pitch operation is restored. Reproduction steps: Fly forward at any speed. Trim helicopter into a stable hover with trim hat by trimming the nose upwards until forward motion stops. apply forward cyclic, nose will pitch up. Workaround: Trimming the nose down below the horizon with the trim hat appears to restore normal function of the cyclic pitch without extreme unintended pitch inputs. Additional note! This happens with or without SAS engaged (flipped master switch off on the main panel. PA caution light illuminates.) I saw a previous posting saying this could be SAS fighting you, but I did another test flight with SAS channels disabled and could still reproduce the issue. It seems that trimming to the limits of the trim hats ability inverts the cyclic input? Joke: I practice religious sex. I get on my knees and pray, and She never answers.pitchinversion.trk Edited July 14, 2016 by Socket7 Practice makes perfect.
Socket7 Posted July 14, 2016 Author Posted July 14, 2016 Did some more testing today. Caught it misbehaving repeatedly on a track. It's not even control inversion, you can ONLY pitch up until you trim down with the china hat, or you pitch up like 70 degrees, and then it snaps downwards. The autopilot panel can be in any configuration and this issue still happens. The misbehaving bit seems to be the gyro block. When the gyro is off and the bug is not triggered, the trim hat does not function, and you can't make the bug happen. Once you set the gyro to GM, the trim hat starts working and you can trigger the bug. If you've triggered the bug, turning the gyro off does not restore normal function of the cyclic stick. Trimming down with the china hat is the only way to resolve the issue without risking loss of control of the aircraft. The gyro does not have to be synced to cause this issue, just turned on. Hope this is useful to the polychop guys, or to anyone else who runs into the same issue and is wondering about it. (I bet it's fixed already on the other code branch)pitchinversiontesting.trk Practice makes perfect.
Mt5_Roie Posted July 14, 2016 Posted July 14, 2016 Have you tried it on any of the 1.5.4 versions? Because that version has some FM changes that might make this issue mute. Otherwise, I'll try to test this weekend to replicate it. Coder - Oculus Rift Guy - Court Jester
Socket7 Posted July 14, 2016 Author Posted July 14, 2016 Yup. The 1.5.4 version does not have this bug. Ran through the cold start tutorial on 1.5.4 and could not get it to misbehave. So it's already fixed, we just have to wait until the next 2.0 update for it to get over to nevada. At least i know what's going on with it now. It was really confusing at first. Practice makes perfect.
Mt5_Roie Posted July 15, 2016 Posted July 15, 2016 Yep. We went the files to ED, so next update to the 2.0.2 version it'll get it. Don't forget to tip your waiter....I'll be here all week; try the veal. Yup. The 1.5.4 version does not have this bug. Ran through the cold start tutorial on 1.5.4 and could not get it to misbehave. So it's already fixed, we just have to wait until the next 2.0 update for it to get over to nevada. At least i know what's going on with it now. It was really confusing at first. Coder - Oculus Rift Guy - Court Jester
Scarecrow84 Posted July 15, 2016 Posted July 15, 2016 Dark Blue Window Tint. Really looking forward to the L-version and other Gazelle updates in 2.0. I can't find any mention of the dark blue, almost opaque tint in the right seat top window of the L-version. This is the opening you look through in steep right hand turns. The visibility of the Gazelle, especially without the copilot visible, is one of the best aspects of it IMO. This blue tint shows up on the exterior of other gazelles as well. Thanks for a great module.
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