Gear Handle Up selection irw downlock override

[P3CFE]

In Game it is possible to select the Gear handle "Up" while "Weight On Wheels".

This should only be possible while pressing the LG downlock override button (mechanical system).

 

If the aircraft is on the ground (with landing gear down:)), the handle is mechanically locked to prevent up selection.

If the aircraft is airborne an electrically powered system is removing the mechanical lock.

 

In the present version it is even possible to select the Gear handle up without electrical power witch is wrong.

 

The conditions that are required to select the Gear handle up is:

Electrical power present + weight off wheels condition.

 

Hope you can work with this.

 

Greetings

 

John,

[Ktulu2]

I happen to have tried it yesterday : It didn't work normally and worked with Down. Lock. Oride.

 

This was with the gear up/Gear Down controls, not swapping gear (g).

[P3CFE]

Confirmed ..you are right..

 

At first I did try this out in the training scenario (cold start), and there it is possible to select the landing gear handle up.

If I fly my own missions it is working correctly.

 

Could you also try it in the training (cold start scenario) to see if you got the same happening

 

If you do, there is something strange happening in the training scenarios.

[Ktulu2]

What I found : if you turn electronics while you have the gear handle down, your gear goes up.

Once electronics are on, the lock mecanism kicks in and you need down lock orride.

 

Guess I missread you first post, my bad.

 

For me it worked n both 1.5 quickstart and ME

Edited August 5, 2016 by Ktulu2

[P3CFE]

I also noticed that with a gear down selection during flight, the red light in the handle is coming on only when the gear is coming out of the uplocked situation.

 

It should come on immediately after selecting it to a different position than the the landinggear is at that moment.

So at the moment I select the handle down, the system sees.. handle not in up but the gear is not down and locked, then...turn on red light .

 

I know it is small stuff... but if it can be changed it would be more realistic.

 

So... sinds we are focusing on the gear system at this moment and before I post it as a new bug, can you tell me youre opinion on this.

 

Thanks already

 

John

[Ktulu2]

Not sure I understood the right thing, but what I got is that you say that red handle should only be lit when the gear is switching state? Or only when ready to land?

 

I know in many nato planes, below a certain speed (around 200 knots) the handle blinks red even though gear is up, so that the pilot doesn't forget it for landing. (and so that he doesn't do like that M2K pilot...LOL)

[P3CFE]

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If you are flying with the gear UP and select gear DOWN, the gear warning remains OFF until the gear doors are fully open before the uplocks release.

 

To make shure if I got my point clear:

 

What BBRZ said here is the thing that in game that is not good.

 

At the moment the gear handle is selected down, the system electrically sees that the gear is not down and locked.

This should illuminate the Red gear handle light immediately.

At the moment ,in game, it does not light up immediately after selecting the gear handle down

 

Again.. small stuff, but I think it is a bug.

 

Greetz

 

John

Edited August 7, 2016 by P3CFE

[P3CFE]

You must agree with me that it is surely an unsafe condition, when you have selected the gear handle down, and the landing gear is remaining in the up locks.

That is one reason that the red light should notify the Pilot.

The red light goes out again when the gear has completed its down cycle (down and locked).

 

This is the way it works in the F16 , I know that this is no good reason to state that the F5 should be the same, but I see no reason why it should be different.

 

I will post it as a bug ..and see what the Devs have to say about it.

 

Thanks for thinking with me.

 

Regards

 

John

[P3CFE]

The statement that the customer has to prove a doubt sounds strange to me.

 

The developers build a product that they claim to be realistic..

They already sorted out the way the systems should function i assume.

 

The only reason for me reporting this bug is to get a reply, wich can be...:

 

1- Whe based this functioning of a system on "this and that" , you can look it up..."there and there" !.

 

Or...

 

2- Whe are not really sure why whe did it..but whe lack the recources.

please help !!

 

Both of the answers are Oke for me.....!

[P3CFE]

Yes ...thats a bit disappointing ,..could be so easy to improve such a fine simulator, if only the devs would be more open and more communicative.

 

Still not sure what the Devs point of view is on input an questions from users.

 

How can we get them to speak ??

[cofcorpse]

I'm sorry, I missed this discussion then.

 

As for the first question, I think I agree with topic starter. But due to some lack of information about this device, maybe somebody knows what will happen when I try to lower landing gear lever without electricity onboard? Does lock will engage or lever won't move to down position?

 

Regarding Landing Gear Lever Warning Light I should agree with BBRZ, because it works how it is stated in flight manual:

1) One or more gear unsafe - this happens after doors are opened or with some failur with locks

2) One or more gear doors are open when landing gear lever is up - this happens when we are retracting gears or with some failure.

Edited November 7, 2016 by cofcorpse