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Well what part of the engagement chain of the HAWK battery is it supposed to jam ?

I'm unsure of the acquisition mode in the HAWK battery but the fire control radar is usually the weakest link, if you can trick the fire control radar to break lock it doesn't matter if the Continuous Wave guidance is difficult to jam, it won't be pointed at anything.

 

Fire control radars are also the ones most like aircraft radars after all.

 

I have no clue as to which component/stage of the Hawk site itself is jammed, nor do I think its modeled that specifically in DCS. So your guess is probably better than mine.

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I have no clue as to which component/stage of the Hawk site itself is jammed, nor do I think its modeled that specifically in DCS. So your guess is probably better than mine.

 

My thoughts went to the Square Pair Fire Control radar for the S200 missile complex SA-5 Gammon.

During the raid on Libya in the 80's EA-6B prowlers completely shot down this system as it's ECM pods would disrupt the search pattern of the fire control radars leading them astray. And without a lock you can't guide the missile.

 

In essence it can best be described as the fire control radar looking for a return from the aircraft that to it looks like a mountain peak on an oscilloscope, what ECM does (simplistically) is create a nicer mountain next door but like the rainbow the radar never seems to get to that mountain just close enough to chase it. It also disappear when the radar beam wanders too far from it's intended target resetting the search pattern.

Since aircraft are only vulnerable for a short period of time this kind of jamming is extremely effective, especially since a CW missile like the Gammon would home in on any white noise jamming and has the range to reach stand off jammers.

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My thoughts went to the Square Pair Fire Control radar for the S200 missile complex SA-5 Gammon.

During the raid on Libya in the 80's EA-6B prowlers completely shot down this system as it's ECM pods would disrupt the search pattern of the fire control radars leading them astray. And without a lock you can't guide the missile.

 

In essence it can best be described as the fire control radar looking for a return from the aircraft that to it looks like a mountain peak on an oscilloscope, what ECM does (simplistically) is create a nicer mountain next door but like the rainbow the radar never seems to get to that mountain just close enough to chase it. It also disappear when the radar beam wanders too far from it's intended target resetting the search pattern.

Since aircraft are only vulnerable for a short period of time this kind of jamming is extremely effective, especially since a CW missile like the Gammon would home in on any white noise jamming and has the range to reach stand off jammers.

 

I understand what you've explained thanks to what I learned in chemistry in 10th grade :P Thanks for the explanation AND the translation!

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I Translated the description of the RWR Countermeasures controls in the cockpit !

 

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FK = Funktionskontroll, self-test basically.

 

When it says things like "fällströmställare" and "tryckströmställare", it doesn't have anything to do with what the switch does, just what kind of switch it is (tryckströmställare = button, and in this case fällströmställare seems to be a 3-way switch). "Strömställare" can be translated to just "switch".

 

The MOTVERK light just means any of the countermeasures are active IIRC. It's in the manual somewhere.

 

ÖVRIG ELNIK RADAR MOTMEDEL is a switch for choosing whether to test other electronics, radar, or countermeasures - ELNIK is just a cute way to abbreviate "elektronik".

 

BTW check the "ändring 90" PDF, it has some more details I think.

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FK = Funktionskontroll, self-test basically.

 

When it says things like "fällströmställare" and "tryckströmställare", it doesn't have anything to do with what the switch does, just what kind of switch it is (tryckströmställare = button, and in this case fällströmställare seems to be a 3-way switch). "Strömställare" can be translated to just "switch".

 

The MOTVERK light just means any of the countermeasures are active IIRC. It's in the manual somewhere.

 

ÖVRIG ELNIK RADAR MOTMEDEL is a switch for choosing whether to test other electronics, radar, or countermeasures - ELNIK is just a cute way to abbreviate "elektronik".

 

BTW check the "ändring 90" PDF, it has some more details I think.

 

YES some major changes in Ändring 90 it seems, Controls 19 21-23 are gone!

Edited by AdurianJ
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These things are the lights that indicate warnings from the Radar Warning Receivers.

 

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Compare it with this S35E Draken (photo recon bird) and you can see the same lights around the artificial horison.

It's actually the same exact system that Recon Drakens got in the 70's to make them a little more survivable.

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