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It could be a replacement for AIM-9 in Izraeli F-15's. Any volunteers to make it?

 

IMHO it wouldn't be of much use Kusch.

 

For a start the F-15 in Lock-on is using the same AIM-9 regardless of country option, so replacing it with a Python missile would also affect the US F-15 - secondly there is of course there is the matter of missile dynamics.....a different 3D model does not a different missile make ;) .

 

Cheers,

- JJ.

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a different 3D model does not a different missile make ;) .

 

Cheers,

- JJ.

 

but it is a good starting point, ins't it? ;)

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I find it funny that people talk about realism, but when it comes down to adding the Python 3/4 there is always an excuse.

 

AIM-9P? Hell yes.

Some other crap missile? In.

 

Python for the sake of realism? Feck no.

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Adding the Python would be a PITA in terms of programming - and it would certainly not be right to add it to USAF F-15's, yet that is /exactly/ how it would be with the current code.

This 'fix' is low on the priority list - as for 'crap missiles', I'd like you to meet my new AIM-120C in BS and say hi ;) (That one's just for you naysayers)

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IMHO it wouldn't be of much use Kusch.

 

For a start the F-15 in Lock-on is using the same AIM-9 regardless of country option, so replacing it with a Python missile would also affect the US F-15 - secondly there is of course there is the matter of missile dynamics.....a different 3D model does not a different missile make ;) .

 

Cheers,

- JJ.

 

 

Adding an extra plane slot (the same) would be just as difficul as adding 2 extra missiles in black shark (AIM-9P and AIM-120C), so I dont get your point of view of just swaping the 3D model of the missile.

 

I had opened a thread about this months ago and I just dont understand why there is so much latent hostility to add realistic options for the Israeli F-15 since theres no IR missile for NATO planes in this game that can hit anything but always falls short. Not even nearly as many options as the russian planes have.

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Adding an extra plane slot (the same) would be just as difficul as adding 2 extra missiles in black shark (AIM-9P and AIM-120C), so I dont get your point of view of just swaping the 3D model of the missile.

 

Please read the thread starting post by Kusch.....so you know what I was replying to.

 

Unless ED decides to implement the Python missile to the game, a third-party made 3D model of it can only be used if it is swapped with that of an existing missile......and no you cannot "just add a slot" for a missile or a plane - it might not be too difficult for ED to dublicate an existing aircraft entry, but for a new missile type you need to know all parameters of it and make the code for the "slot".

 

At any rate I was merely replying from a modder's perspective on the usefulness of a missile model for which there is no associated code in the game.

 

I had opened a thread about this months ago and I just dont understand why there is so much latent hostility to add realistic options for the Israeli F-15 since theres no IR missile for NATO planes in this game that can hit anything but always falls short. Not even nearly as many options as the russian planes have.

 

I have no idea what you are talking about - "latent hostility"?.

 

- JJ.

JJ

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Kush may not be referring to mere 3D object replacement. Just that Israel plane use those missiles instead of the AIM-9, thats all. I see nothing in his post about 3D cosmetics. He wants the missiles, thats it.

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1). Thread posted on "3D Models Discussion"-section of the forum.

 

2). Thread title: 3D model of Python 3/4 missile possible?

 

3). Contents of intitial post:

 

"It could be a replacement for AIM-9 in Izraeli F-15's. Any volunteers to make it?"

 

I see nothing in his post about 3D cosmetics.

 

Are you blind?

 

- JJ.

JJ

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Adding the Python would be a PITA in terms of programming - and it would certainly not be right to add it to USAF F-15's, yet that is /exactly/ how it would be with the current code.

This 'fix' is low on the priority list - as for 'crap missiles', I'd like you to meet my new AIM-120C in BS and say hi ;) (That one's just for you naysayers)

 

Well, players/AI can still play their "Dodge this missile for free" card against the AIM-120C.

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1). Thread posted on "3D Models Discussion"-section of the forum.

 

2). Thread title: 3D model of Python 3/4 missile possible?

 

3). Contents of intitial post:

 

"It could be a replacement for AIM-9 in Izraeli F-15's. Any volunteers to make it?"

 

 

 

Are you blind?

 

- JJ.

 

This whole thread doesnt make much sense if its only a 3D model request, I can still interpret his words as a model request for the new missiles entities, and take the 9 out.

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the missiles would have to be different in some way, for example the python would have better seeker. Doing that would only result in a LOPED R-73 on the F-15 wich is not exactly elegant.

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Replacing Sidewinders with Pythons isn't a bad idea though!

 

Remember how ED modelled Sidewinder?!

In game, it lacks range but it's all aspect missile which is not true.

 

Only AIM-9X can be launched head-on!

 

Dunno 'bout Pythons but if they're all aspect in RL they should replace LOFC Sidewinders immidiately!

 

If ED wanted realism by deleting R-77s from Su-27S, they could also create proper Sidewinders for USFOR planes!

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