Kusch Posted December 7, 2006 Posted December 7, 2006 It could be a replacement for AIM-9 in Izraeli F-15's. Any volunteers to make it? Python 3 And more pics: http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/eduardo_fadul/rafael_python_iii/ Python 4 Give me "flying telephone pole" (SA-2)!
Alfa Posted December 7, 2006 Posted December 7, 2006 It could be a replacement for AIM-9 in Izraeli F-15's. Any volunteers to make it? IMHO it wouldn't be of much use Kusch. For a start the F-15 in Lock-on is using the same AIM-9 regardless of country option, so replacing it with a Python missile would also affect the US F-15 - secondly there is of course there is the matter of missile dynamics.....a different 3D model does not a different missile make ;) . Cheers, - JJ. JJ
Kusch Posted December 7, 2006 Author Posted December 7, 2006 a different 3D model does not a different missile make ;) . Cheers, - JJ. but it is a good starting point, ins't it? ;) Give me "flying telephone pole" (SA-2)!
AerialHawk Posted December 7, 2006 Posted December 7, 2006 I find it funny that people talk about realism, but when it comes down to adding the Python 3/4 there is always an excuse. AIM-9P? Hell yes. Some other crap missile? In. Python for the sake of realism? Feck no.
GGTharos Posted December 8, 2006 Posted December 8, 2006 Adding the Python would be a PITA in terms of programming - and it would certainly not be right to add it to USAF F-15's, yet that is /exactly/ how it would be with the current code. This 'fix' is low on the priority list - as for 'crap missiles', I'd like you to meet my new AIM-120C in BS and say hi ;) (That one's just for you naysayers) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Pilotasso Posted December 8, 2006 Posted December 8, 2006 IMHO it wouldn't be of much use Kusch. For a start the F-15 in Lock-on is using the same AIM-9 regardless of country option, so replacing it with a Python missile would also affect the US F-15 - secondly there is of course there is the matter of missile dynamics.....a different 3D model does not a different missile make ;) . Cheers, - JJ. Adding an extra plane slot (the same) would be just as difficul as adding 2 extra missiles in black shark (AIM-9P and AIM-120C), so I dont get your point of view of just swaping the 3D model of the missile. I had opened a thread about this months ago and I just dont understand why there is so much latent hostility to add realistic options for the Israeli F-15 since theres no IR missile for NATO planes in this game that can hit anything but always falls short. Not even nearly as many options as the russian planes have. .
Alfa Posted December 8, 2006 Posted December 8, 2006 Adding an extra plane slot (the same) would be just as difficul as adding 2 extra missiles in black shark (AIM-9P and AIM-120C), so I dont get your point of view of just swaping the 3D model of the missile. Please read the thread starting post by Kusch.....so you know what I was replying to. Unless ED decides to implement the Python missile to the game, a third-party made 3D model of it can only be used if it is swapped with that of an existing missile......and no you cannot "just add a slot" for a missile or a plane - it might not be too difficult for ED to dublicate an existing aircraft entry, but for a new missile type you need to know all parameters of it and make the code for the "slot". At any rate I was merely replying from a modder's perspective on the usefulness of a missile model for which there is no associated code in the game. I had opened a thread about this months ago and I just dont understand why there is so much latent hostility to add realistic options for the Israeli F-15 since theres no IR missile for NATO planes in this game that can hit anything but always falls short. Not even nearly as many options as the russian planes have. I have no idea what you are talking about - "latent hostility"?. - JJ. JJ
Pilotasso Posted December 8, 2006 Posted December 8, 2006 Kush may not be referring to mere 3D object replacement. Just that Israel plane use those missiles instead of the AIM-9, thats all. I see nothing in his post about 3D cosmetics. He wants the missiles, thats it. .
Alfa Posted December 8, 2006 Posted December 8, 2006 1). Thread posted on "3D Models Discussion"-section of the forum. 2). Thread title: 3D model of Python 3/4 missile possible? 3). Contents of intitial post: "It could be a replacement for AIM-9 in Izraeli F-15's. Any volunteers to make it?" I see nothing in his post about 3D cosmetics. Are you blind? - JJ. JJ
D-Scythe Posted December 8, 2006 Posted December 8, 2006 Adding the Python would be a PITA in terms of programming - and it would certainly not be right to add it to USAF F-15's, yet that is /exactly/ how it would be with the current code. This 'fix' is low on the priority list - as for 'crap missiles', I'd like you to meet my new AIM-120C in BS and say hi ;) (That one's just for you naysayers) Well, players/AI can still play their "Dodge this missile for free" card against the AIM-120C.
GGTharos Posted December 8, 2006 Posted December 8, 2006 Supermen do happen. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Pilotasso Posted December 9, 2006 Posted December 9, 2006 1). Thread posted on "3D Models Discussion"-section of the forum. 2). Thread title: 3D model of Python 3/4 missile possible? 3). Contents of intitial post: "It could be a replacement for AIM-9 in Izraeli F-15's. Any volunteers to make it?" Are you blind? - JJ. This whole thread doesnt make much sense if its only a 3D model request, I can still interpret his words as a model request for the new missiles entities, and take the 9 out. .
Pilotasso Posted December 9, 2006 Posted December 9, 2006 the missiles would have to be different in some way, for example the python would have better seeker. Doing that would only result in a LOPED R-73 on the F-15 wich is not exactly elegant. .
Vekkinho Posted December 9, 2006 Posted December 9, 2006 Replacing Sidewinders with Pythons isn't a bad idea though! Remember how ED modelled Sidewinder?! In game, it lacks range but it's all aspect missile which is not true. Only AIM-9X can be launched head-on! Dunno 'bout Pythons but if they're all aspect in RL they should replace LOFC Sidewinders immidiately! If ED wanted realism by deleting R-77s from Su-27S, they could also create proper Sidewinders for USFOR planes! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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