A few questions regarding the control system and maneuverability of the su-33

[Ala12Rv-watermanpc]

Ok, will do that, at least until some new question pops in my mind :P...thanks a lot!!:)

[Ironhand]

Assuming that means using the "Y" key, it makes no difference. The "clamp" remains. Which makes sense, I guess, since it's not there to limit the AoA. It's the roll component that it's limiting. Perhaps to limit your ability to stall one wing significantly before the other and put yourself on your back? DK.

 

BTW, never noticed it until this AM but the clamp is there in the -27, too.

 

EDIT: I guess thinking of it as an AoA clamp is a misrepresentation. It's actually an AoA roll clamp.

 

EDIT II: Now that I'm thinking about it, I bet you'd see the same clamping event even without direct control mode engaged as long as you push up to the 25° AoA mark. Didn't think to check that this morning.

Just came back to add a note that this is, indeed, the case. Also surprised me that, in a poweroff stall with the FCS engaged, it's really hard to get the -33 to 25° without really working at it.

[LJQCN101]

Thanks for that. The reasoning makes sense and the travel range limit in the sim seems about right. Are you referring to the real world manual (if so, can you reference the page?) or did I just miss it in the DCS manual?

 

Just 27SK RL manual but mine is Chinese version. BTW I tried carrier landing with Direct Control On, with ease. Static stability of the aircraft may be too high. Here's the track:

 

Su33 3wire Direct Control.trk

[Ironhand]

Just 27SK RL manual but mine is Chinese version. BTW I tried carrier landing with Direct Control On, with ease. Static stability of the aircraft may be too high.

That's embarrassing. Right there in the very first section, too. Although it sounds as if you can force your way past the restriction.

 

I'll check out the trk at my earliest opportunity. My impression as well is that the -33 is less "flighty" than the -27 in direct control mode (in the sim).

[Ala12Rv-watermanpc]

Just came back to add a note that this is, indeed, the case. Also surprised me that, in a poweroff stall with the FCS engaged, it's really hard to get the -33 to 25° without really working at it.

 

That's embarrassing. Right there in the very first section, too. Although it sounds as if you can force your way past the restriction.

 

I'll check out the trk at my earliest opportunity. My impression as well is that the -33 is less "flighty" than the -27 in direct control mode (in the sim).

 

Yes, I also didn't test that properly but yeah, the clamp is also there when out of DCS.

 

About the 33 being less "flighty", yes, I thought the same...expected a more maneuverable plane once DCS is enabled than the 27.