truebrit Posted June 9, 2018 Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) I am in need of of good HOTAS, I am currently a victim of the Saitek Fly 5. I have previously owned an X52, and both of these have proven unreliable and have really put me off buying from Saitek again. That being said, the X-56 Rhino looks perfect, although pushing my budget. The Thrustmaster T1600 throttle and stick look ok, and gets good reviews, but has no where near enough buttons and the ones it does have are in a silly place. I have owned 2 Thrustmaster wheels for many years and have never been let down by them. So basically I need Thrustmaster to build me an X-56 Rhino, failing that can you guys help me decide, or point me to something else that has all the bells and whistles and will not arrive broken and then have the replacement fail after a few months like Saitek products. :pilotfly: TL;DR What HOTAS should I buy?:joystick: EDIT: This Reddit post from Logitech looks promising. Edited June 9, 2018 by truebrit Planes: A-10C/II - FC3 - F/A-18C - F-16c - F-5 - F-15E - F-4E Helicopters: UH-1H Huey - KA-50 Black Shark - AH-64D Maps: Sinai - Normandy 2.0 - Channel - Syria - Persian Gulf - South Atlantic Extras: Supercarrier - WWII Asset Pack PC SPECS: CPU, Intel i5 12600k | MOBO, MSI, MAG 760 TOMAHAWK | MEMORY, Corsair 64GB DDR4 | GRAPHICS CARD, RTX 4070 SUPER | PSU, 850W | Flight Stick, Logitech X-56 | Rudder Pedals, Logitech G | O/S, Windows 10, 64bit | Storage Drives, 2GB M.2 | MONITOR, ASUS TUF Gaming 2560X1440 180Hz
-archer- Posted June 10, 2018 Posted June 10, 2018 (edited) My vote is for X56. Pros: It' highly functional: has many controls suitable for various aircrafts. A precision of axes is quite fair It's quite reliable - if you use it gently, with appropriate care. Cons: 1. It doesn't have a true ministick but a HAT switch - emulating ministick. And moreover: to use the ministick you have to use their programming software, that must be always loaded into memory of your PC and running. This is really not a good idea - in 2018. 2. Some simmers complains on a poor reliability of X55/X56. I myself have been using an X55 throttle for more than 5 years. Yes since a purchase day my X55 lost backlighting of several toggle switches, and I have a little problem with rotaries. However I'm still prefer my X55 to my Thrustmuster HOTAS Warthog throttle because of rich functionality and similar accuracy. As an alternative I would consider: a VKB Gunfighter (Pro) joystick with VKB MCG (Pro) Grip. I am using this stick. It's gorgeous, but rather expensive. Now I am waiting for a VKB TECS throttle (planned for release by the end of the year) or another alternative: VPC MongoosT-50 Flightstick VPC MongoosT-50 Throttle (still in production) But it rather expensive and still a darkhorse Edited June 10, 2018 by -=archer=- i7-6700k (4.7 GHz) // RAM 32 Gb // GTX 1070 // // Windows 10 64-bit LTSB; VKB Gunfighter Mk2 Pro + VKB MCG Pro // BRD-F1(v.2) // Oculus Rift cv1 // BRD-N(v. №4) // VKB King Cobra MkII Fat // VKB King Cobra MkIII Fat // Saitek X55 // Saitek throttle Quadrant // Microsoft FFB 2 // Saitek X45 // Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog // VKB MK20-3 Pro Pedals // VKB RDRXXI-L // TrackIR 5
truebrit Posted June 10, 2018 Author Posted June 10, 2018 Thanks for the tips. I may see if I can get an extended warranty on the X-56. From the Amazon review starting to come out it seems to still have problems. But that VKB TECS Throttle Control System is soooo tempting.:smilewink: My vote is for X56. Pros: It' highly functional: has many controls suitable for various aircrafts. A precision of axes is quite fair It's quite reliable - if you use it gently, with appropriate care. Cons: 1. It doesn't have a true ministick but a HAT switch - emulating ministick. And moreover: to use the ministick you have to use their programming software, that must be always loaded into memory of your PC and running. This is really not a good idea - in 2018. 2. Some simmers complains on a poor reliability of X55/X56. I myself have been using an X55 throttle for more than 5 years. Yes since a purchase day my X55 lost backlighting of several toggle switches, and I have a little problem with rotaries. However I'm still prefer my X55 to my Thrustmuster HOTAS Warthog throttle because of rich functionality and similar accuracy. As an alternative I would consider: a VKB Gunfighter (Pro) joystick with VKB MCG (Pro) Grip. I am using this stick. It's gorgeous, but rather expensive. Now I am waiting for a VKB TECS throttle (planned for release by the end of the year) or another alternative: VPC MongoosT-50 Flightstick VPC MongoosT-50 Throttle (still in production) But it rather expensive and still a darkhorse Planes: A-10C/II - FC3 - F/A-18C - F-16c - F-5 - F-15E - F-4E Helicopters: UH-1H Huey - KA-50 Black Shark - AH-64D Maps: Sinai - Normandy 2.0 - Channel - Syria - Persian Gulf - South Atlantic Extras: Supercarrier - WWII Asset Pack PC SPECS: CPU, Intel i5 12600k | MOBO, MSI, MAG 760 TOMAHAWK | MEMORY, Corsair 64GB DDR4 | GRAPHICS CARD, RTX 4070 SUPER | PSU, 850W | Flight Stick, Logitech X-56 | Rudder Pedals, Logitech G | O/S, Windows 10, 64bit | Storage Drives, 2GB M.2 | MONITOR, ASUS TUF Gaming 2560X1440 180Hz
-archer- Posted June 10, 2018 Posted June 10, 2018 indeed :) i7-6700k (4.7 GHz) // RAM 32 Gb // GTX 1070 // // Windows 10 64-bit LTSB; VKB Gunfighter Mk2 Pro + VKB MCG Pro // BRD-F1(v.2) // Oculus Rift cv1 // BRD-N(v. №4) // VKB King Cobra MkII Fat // VKB King Cobra MkIII Fat // Saitek X55 // Saitek throttle Quadrant // Microsoft FFB 2 // Saitek X45 // Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog // VKB MK20-3 Pro Pedals // VKB RDRXXI-L // TrackIR 5
crab Posted June 10, 2018 Posted June 10, 2018 I'd chill out for a few days and see what exactly TM shows at E3, maybe it's of interest, maybe not. In my mind if you can afford the better stuff and you like to fly your virtual aircraft regularly there is no reason to get the el cheapo stuff; life is too short not to treat yourself to the pleasures of good gear when possible.
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