Doum76 Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 Hey giys, i do have a stupid question here, are we able to use a waypoint set as designate target on the HSI but in CCIP rather than Auto/CCRP, no matter what i put on my Program it goes Auto as i designate as target... I'm wondering because to practice Waypoint UFC entering, i take a target Lat/Long coord on f12 menu, create a waypoint with it and, since UFC and HSI are not displaying the same Lat/Long, it covnerts and end up in an offset, which is a bit annoying as Auto bomb drop, so i simply wanna use it as designate target to spot on my HUD the target's area, but going in CCIP with visual cue adjusment for the offset created, if not i got to go in one shot, spot the target's area, un-designate waypoint as target and go in CCIP by remembering where the target was... Thanks
erautour Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) WPDSG on the right side of the HSI page. The only issue is if you do multiple passes you have to re-box WPDSG since you lose the diamond when you un-designate and go into CCIP. Not a big deal but something to keep it mind. Edited July 5, 2018 by erautour
Alphamale Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 Yeah, I guess CCIP is more for TOO's...but with WPs, you're thinking fixed permanent structures like buildings or runways
Hog_No32 Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 WPDSG on the right side of the HSI page. The only issue is if you do multiple passes you have to re-box WPDSG since you lose the diamond when you un-designate and go into CCIP. Not a big deal but something to keep it mind. I think that is no what the OP asked for. He seems to know the WPDSG button and its functionality but he asks for the diamond to show the WPT as TGT but still having the possibility to deliver in CCIP instead of AUTO mode. I actually believe this is not possible but I stand to be corrected.
Home Fries Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 What you can do is set your profile for CCIP, designate the waypoint, acquire the diamond on your HUD with CCRP cues, then undesignate the target once you have a tally. At this point, you'll get your CCIP cues that you can put on your target. -Home Fries My DCS Files and Skins My DCS TARGET Profile for Cougar or Warthog and MFDs F-14B LANTIRN Guide
Doum76 Posted July 5, 2018 Author Posted July 5, 2018 What you can do is set your profile for CCIP, designate the waypoint, acquire the diamond on your HUD with CCRP cues, then undesignate the target once you have a tally. At this point, you'll get your CCIP cues that you can put on your target. Yep that's what i do, was jsut wondering an alternative, it's easy for stand alone things, or building, but with VR, sometimes spot an isolated target not standing alone in the middle of a desert, is not easy. Guess i was doing th right way, was jsut curious to know if it was possible. No matter what, you need to do a recon pass to taly the target witht he diamond then going in with CCIP after that, at least, you'll get craters as reference :) Until we get TGP available.
Doum76 Posted July 5, 2018 Author Posted July 5, 2018 I think that is no what the OP asked for. He seems to know the WPDSG button and its functionality but he asks for the diamond to show the WPT as TGT but still having the possibility to deliver in CCIP instead of AUTO mode. I actually believe this is not possible but I stand to be corrected. Exactly :)
Alphamale Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 You wouldn't set your WPT as TGT unless you knew from the briefing that the WPT was not just any piece of ground in the vicinity, but instead was a specific target like a building, hangar or a runway
Doum76 Posted July 5, 2018 Author Posted July 5, 2018 You wouldn't set your WPT as TGT unless you knew from the briefing that the WPT was not just any piece of ground in the vicinity, but instead was a specific target like a building, hangar or a runway As you said then, structure or something stationary big enough? Just wanted to explore this, since most of the time i always used CCIP with eye contact.
NeilWillis Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 The current procedure is as described in one of Wags videos. It may be WIP, but that is how it currently works. From my viewpoint, I can only assume it is a compromise to achieve something in the short term, and the final procedure is still in the works.
Alphamale Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 Well, once the AAAs and SAMs get into the mix, CCIP will be reserved for the MOH bomb runs..."ain't comin' home, ma"
Yoda967 Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 Waypoint accuracy as it stands in the EA Hornet isn't very good for target designation. Wags uses the TGT diamond for cueing, which is just to get your eyes in the ballpark, not to drop a bomb on. Currently, waypoints are accurate to the second, which is about 100 feet. Targeting quality coordinates need to be to the hundredth of a second (two decimal places to the right of seconds) to be of any use at all. Very Respectfully, Kurt "Yoda" Kalbfleisch San Diego, California "In my private manual I firmly believed the only time there was too much fuel aboard any aircraft was if it was fire." --Ernest K. Gann
Alphamale Posted July 5, 2018 Posted July 5, 2018 Waypoint accuracy as it stands in the EA Hornet isn't very good for target designation. Wags uses the TGT diamond for cueing, which is just to get your eyes in the ballpark, not to drop a bomb on. Currently, waypoints are accurate to the second, which is about 100 feet. Targeting quality coordinates need to be to the hundredth of a second (two decimal places to the right of seconds) to be of any use at all. It is if your targets are what I said before...LARGE fixed things like warehouses, hangers, bridges, runways, etc. Those wpts can be assigned well enough to get the job done. I'd rather do auto release at 10k levelled than to dive in close to the defenses doing CCIP. But if I see a TGT of OPP, like a bomber parked to the side, then CCIP will work the quickest, IF SAFE
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