backstab Posted July 9, 2018 Posted July 9, 2018 I found a bug in the f18. It has to do with the G limit override functionality as it relates to the axis tuning within DCS. Without tuning the axis a few things are true. It is true that when the NWS/Autopilot disconnect/G limit override paddle button on my joystick is activated the aircraft was able to over G as per the expected functionality. Another truth was that ( I noticed) the displayed joystick in the game would reach its maximum forward and aft physical limit long before my personal joystick would. This was annoying and it meant I have lots of real stick travel left over when the planes maximum travel had already been reached. To bring my joystick in line with the motion of the F18 displayed joystick I used axis tuning. Specifically Saturation Y. What I did was a trial and error to force the F 18 digital stick in the cockpit to hit its physical limit at the exact same time my personal real joystick hit its limits. I was able to do this very easily. The number happened to be 52 Saturation Y. I thought I had the perfect setup because I can now max out the pitch control in the game and it followed exactly my joystick control in real life. Wonderful. Then I get in the game and I see that under normal circumstances (no G limit override) I have great control of pitch. When I use G limit override paddle button however and pull the stick back I am unable to "activate" or get any more pitch control. It is as if I am not using the G limit override at all. No more pitch and no "Flight controls flight controls" call from the plane which it dutifully does when you are in a state of G limit override. The issue is that according to the physical movement of the F18 stick in the game I am absolutely able to max that control stick out to its extreme travel in pitch but the game doesn't recognize the pitch I am able to put in. I do not fully understand this. Note that I have not used the term elevator to describe pitch. I understand that the pilot of a real F18 does not directly control the surfaces. He asks for pitch by pulling back on a stick and the computers decide for him what is best done to deliver the pitch for the pilot. I get that. The reality is that the pilot has only that stick to make the request for pitch from the computers. I am able to max out that sticks travel but I am not able to get the G limit override to activate somehow. I sense this may be a bug or I am not sure what to call it. An inaccuracy perhaps. To add to the mystery, I notice that when I have not altered Saturation Y in any way (100) and I use the G limit switch I can get activation of G limit override without having to reach the displayed joysticks maximum deflection. In other words I don't need to ask for max pitch to get the G limit override to activate. This tells me it's not about stick travel. I can't figure it out. Can you look into the logic that "activates" the G limit override. I understand there is a paddle button and it does work however there must be a certain stick travel or pitch travel that is required that is somehow independent of the digital control stick inside the F18. I have evidence of this because when I turn up the Saturation Y from 52 to 71 I can now get G limit override to activate or turn on as per normal. Of course my stick is no longer synced with the planes stick. If there is another piece of logic that allows/disallows G limit to activate can it be removed or adjusted?
RuskyV Posted July 9, 2018 Posted July 9, 2018 Interesting. I have seen this issue myself, although I have for the most part been able to ignore it, there seems to be some artificial dead zones at the extremes of control travel that i oftern wondered about. I do find that i have to sometimes deflect the inputs to all their maximums as i find especially with the pedals and toe brakes, they loose the values. Be intrested in maybe an official response.
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