Weegie Posted September 29, 2018 Posted September 29, 2018 Following on from the awesome Suncom F-15 stick to Hog base adaption thread I thought I'd ask if anybody has tried to adapt a FighterStick to a Hog base It looks like Debolestis has a suitable tail piece but I'm also wondering about the CH electronics or installing the TM Hog board into the CH Fighterstick I know the Hog is better overall but the Fighterstick would be a great back up option and I like the quality of the stick and switches. What else would I need? John
rel4y Posted September 29, 2018 Posted September 29, 2018 (edited) Yeah, i made one. There are two versions, so you will have to check which one you need. https://www.shapeways.com/shops/rel4y-diy-joystick-flight-simming Sorry misread your post. You will need a 24 bit 4021 shift register and preferably a Gameport CH stick. These are very easy to modify with a shift register. I have posted pictures of my conversion here on the forums a while ago. Edited September 29, 2018 by rel4y Cougar, CH and Saitek PnP hall sensor kits + shift registers: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=220916 Shapeways store for DIY flight simming equipment and repair: https://www.shapeways.com/shops/rel4y-diy-joystick-flight-simming
Weegie Posted September 29, 2018 Author Posted September 29, 2018 Thanks You got a link to that thread? I searched your posts and a general search and came up empty handed, it's something I'd really like to do Guidance would be great
rel4y Posted September 30, 2018 Posted September 30, 2018 Sorry, I cant find it on these forums as well. But you can check out my thread on the ATAG forum: https://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26942&p=300039&viewfull=1#post300039 I used 74HC165 shift regs in this build above since I dont connect it to a Warthog base. I still have two 4021 shift registers left from this thread in case you are interested btw. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=217084&highlight=4021+shift Also be careful to measure the "post" your CH Stick sits on. There were two versions made by CH, one smaller one for the Gameport and early USB sticks and one thicker for the later USB sticks. I dont know which one Debolestis has modeled his adapter after, since I dont think he realized there are two versions. The different dimensions are in the description. https://www.shapeways.com/product/6X7K6EWGD/ch-usb-to-thrustmaster-brd-virpil-adapter?optionId=64716413 https://www.shapeways.com/product/W6RVJRRAG/ch-gameport-early-usb-to-thrustmaster-brd-virp?optionId=64716418 Cougar, CH and Saitek PnP hall sensor kits + shift registers: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=220916 Shapeways store for DIY flight simming equipment and repair: https://www.shapeways.com/shops/rel4y-diy-joystick-flight-simming
Weegie Posted September 30, 2018 Author Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) Thanks that's interesting & very helpful Yes I'm interested in the shift registers, but I'm new to playing with electronic hardware From that link I see the 4021s are TM compatible and can be daisy chained The 4021s 8 bit registers meaning they can control 8 inputs, I reckon assuming I only use the trim hat for 4 inputs (I think it has 8 positions) I'd need 19, so 3 register boards and daisy chain them if I have it right. Are you planning on, or could you, make any more as ideally I'd take 4 of the boards if you had them available I'll make sure I measure up the post and ask Debolestis the question re dimensions. Very much appreciated John Edited September 30, 2018 by Weegie Formatting
Sokol1_br Posted September 30, 2018 Posted September 30, 2018 FighterStick grip have 20 buttons (4x 4 HATs plus 4 press buttons). I reckon assuming I only use the trim hat for 4 inputs (I think it has 8 positions) The 8 way POV HAT (Trim HAT) use only 4 physical buttons for N, E, S, W directions. The NE, SE, NW, SW directions is created by firmware when detect 2 close physical buttons pressed simultaneous. Then you need an 3x CD4021 PCB Shift Register and optionally can add more 4 buttons in FighterStick.
rel4y Posted September 30, 2018 Posted September 30, 2018 (edited) The 4021s 8 bit registers meaning they can control 8 inputs, I reckon assuming I only use the trim hat for 4 inputs (I think it has 8 positions) I'd need 19, so 3 register boards and daisy chain them if I have it right. I'll make sure I measure up the post and ask Debolestis the question re dimensions. Hey John, One board has 3x 4021 SRs, so 24 Bit total. = You only need one board for 24 buttons. No need to ask Debolestis, I posted the links to my models on Shapeways that I know work, because several people have ordered these before. You just need to measure the dimensions and find out which one you need. When I made these models Debolestis didnt offer any for CH, otherwise I would have simply ordered from him. The layout you need to use for the Warthog base can be found here. simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/download/Number/9859/filename/myHOTAS%20-%20mapowanie%20-%20Warthog%20pinout.pdf If you like you can also use the same model I used in my build with a male mini DIN adapter and Gardena nut. Then I would need to reupload that one. Edited October 3, 2018 by rel4y Cougar, CH and Saitek PnP hall sensor kits + shift registers: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=220916 Shapeways store for DIY flight simming equipment and repair: https://www.shapeways.com/shops/rel4y-diy-joystick-flight-simming
Weegie Posted October 1, 2018 Author Posted October 1, 2018 rel4y I've sent you a PM about the boards, once again I am in gratitude to you Pin outs have just saved me a load of grief I'll probably order Debolestis's F-15 nut as it looks pretty good, although your Gardena nut is also a great option There is no such thing as too much information :book: Sokol1 As usual the Guru of all hardware and helping me out yet again, that info is so useful
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