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Following on from the awesome Suncom F-15 stick to Hog base adaption thread

 

 

I thought I'd ask if anybody has tried to adapt a FighterStick to a Hog base

 

 

It looks like Debolestis has a suitable tail piece but I'm also wondering about the CH electronics or installing the TM Hog board into the CH Fighterstick

 

 

I know the Hog is better overall but the Fighterstick would be a great back up option and I like the quality of the stick and switches.

 

 

What else would I need?

 

 

John

Posted (edited)

Yeah, i made one. There are two versions, so you will have to check which one you need.

 

https://www.shapeways.com/shops/rel4y-diy-joystick-flight-simming

 

 

Sorry misread your post. You will need a 24 bit 4021 shift register and preferably a Gameport CH stick. These are very easy to modify with a shift register. I have posted pictures of my conversion here on the forums a while ago.

Edited by rel4y

Cougar, CH and Saitek PnP hall sensor kits + shift registers: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=220916

 

Shapeways store for DIY flight simming equipment and repair: https://www.shapeways.com/shops/rel4y-diy-joystick-flight-simming

Posted

Thanks

 

 

You got a link to that thread?

 

 

 

I searched your posts and a general search and came up empty handed, it's something I'd really like to do

 

 

Guidance would be great

Posted

Sorry, I cant find it on these forums as well. But you can check out my thread on the ATAG forum:

 

https://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26942&p=300039&viewfull=1#post300039

 

I used 74HC165 shift regs in this build above since I dont connect it to a Warthog base. I still have two 4021 shift registers left from this thread in case you are interested btw.

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=217084&highlight=4021+shift

 

Also be careful to measure the "post" your CH Stick sits on. There were two versions made by CH, one smaller one for the Gameport and early USB sticks and one thicker for the later USB sticks. I dont know which one Debolestis has modeled his adapter after, since I dont think he realized there are two versions. The different dimensions are in the description.

 

https://www.shapeways.com/product/6X7K6EWGD/ch-usb-to-thrustmaster-brd-virpil-adapter?optionId=64716413

 

https://www.shapeways.com/product/W6RVJRRAG/ch-gameport-early-usb-to-thrustmaster-brd-virp?optionId=64716418

Cougar, CH and Saitek PnP hall sensor kits + shift registers: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=220916

 

Shapeways store for DIY flight simming equipment and repair: https://www.shapeways.com/shops/rel4y-diy-joystick-flight-simming

Posted (edited)

Thanks that's interesting & very helpful

 

Yes I'm interested in the shift registers, but I'm new to playing with electronic hardware

 

From that link I see the 4021s are TM compatible and can be daisy chained

 

The 4021s 8 bit registers meaning they can control 8 inputs, I reckon assuming I only use the trim hat for 4 inputs (I think it has 8 positions) I'd need 19, so 3 register boards and daisy chain them if I have it right.

 

Are you planning on, or could you, make any more as ideally I'd take 4 of the boards if you had them available

 

I'll make sure I measure up the post and ask Debolestis the question re dimensions.

 

Very much appreciated

 

John

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FighterStick grip have 20 buttons (4x 4 HATs plus 4 press buttons).

 

I reckon assuming I only use the trim hat for 4 inputs (I think it has 8 positions)

 

The 8 way POV HAT (Trim HAT) use only 4 physical buttons for N, E, S, W directions.

The NE, SE, NW, SW directions is created by firmware when detect 2 close physical buttons pressed simultaneous.

 

Then you need an 3x CD4021 PCB Shift Register and optionally can add more 4 buttons in FighterStick.

Posted (edited)

The 4021s 8 bit registers meaning they can control 8 inputs, I reckon assuming I only use the trim hat for 4 inputs (I think it has 8 positions) I'd need 19, so 3 register boards and daisy chain them if I have it right.

 

I'll make sure I measure up the post and ask Debolestis the question re dimensions.

 

Hey John,

One board has 3x 4021 SRs, so 24 Bit total. = You only need one board for 24 buttons.

 

No need to ask Debolestis, I posted the links to my models on Shapeways that I know work, because several people have ordered these before. You just need to measure the dimensions and find out which one you need. When I made these models Debolestis didnt offer any for CH, otherwise I would have simply ordered from him.

 

The layout you need to use for the Warthog base can be found here. simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/download/Number/9859/filename/myHOTAS%20-%20mapowanie%20-%20Warthog%20pinout.pdf

 

 

If you like you can also use the same model I used in my build with a male mini DIN adapter and Gardena nut. Then I would need to reupload that one.

Edited by rel4y

Cougar, CH and Saitek PnP hall sensor kits + shift registers: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=220916

 

Shapeways store for DIY flight simming equipment and repair: https://www.shapeways.com/shops/rel4y-diy-joystick-flight-simming

Posted

rel4y

 

I've sent you a PM about the boards, once again I am in gratitude to you

 

Pin outs have just saved me a load of grief

 

I'll probably order Debolestis's F-15 nut as it looks pretty good, although your Gardena nut is also a great option

 

There is no such thing as too much information :book:

 

Sokol1

 

 

As usual the Guru of all hardware and helping me out yet again, that info is so useful

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