cailean_556 Posted March 25, 2019 Posted March 25, 2019 In the ME, I'd like to see the addition of an IR Strobe that can be placed on units (visible through NVG). In the context I'd use it currently, I'd set it to a vehicle in a convoy to allow said convoy to be tracked at night by fast air. I'm using a signal flare on unit in the interim but this is only as it passes through various trigger points I create - the option to trigger a continuous IR Strobe would be great. Also, the ability for JTACs to designate structures - specifically static structures placed by mission creators. In terms of Country additional capabilties: I'd like to see the UK receive the F-4, with associated liveries. Granted, the RAF never used the F-4E however it gives the UK an aircraft of a type (just not variant) it used to use - no longer just fictional F/A-18s or F-5Es (especially now that the Hawk has gone the way of the Dodo). I'd like to see the Czech Air Force receive access to the MiG-29 - giving the Czechs a tactical fighter - and a livery for the MiG-21 and MiG-29. With Cuba's addition to DCS as a proper faction, I'd also like to see the MiG-29 (and associated livery) made available, as well as liveries for the MiG-23 (though these will likely come with the MiG-23 being developed by RAZBAM), An-26, Mi-8 and Mi-24. I would also like to see the Algerian faction receive a MiG-21 livery. I'd like to see Australia have access to Oliver Hazzard Perry class frigates, as they use these vessels in reality (the Adelaide class FFG). While the RANs FFGs are modified substantially (compared to the DCS variant), it would give the RAN a surface combatant. I'd also like to see Australia's C-130 and C-17 receive a RAAF livery, as well as the UH-60 receive an ADF livery. In regards to liveries, I know there are mods however I'd like to see ED either make these liveries part of the sim or make their own liveries. In terms of new capabilities: I would also like to see Russia receive an AI subsonic strategic bomber capable of 'carpet bombing', such as the Tu-16 (which would then also pave the way for a Chinese H-6). I'd also like to see the UK receive the Tornado ADV (as an AI). I've suggested it before, but I'd like to see a western-influenced 'Insurgent' faction (call it 'Militia' or 'Rebels') so that there can be a REDFOR and BLUFOR paramilitary force operating at the same time, if creators so desire. Lastly, on the Persian Gulf map, I would like to see Bandar Abbas, and other adequately sized airfields, be able to handle medium and large aircraft, such as C-130 and IL-78 aircraft, starting from the ramp. This list is not exhaustive but, given my current mission narratives, these additions would greatly help me - and if I'd like to see these things become a reality, surely someone else does too.
Baco Posted March 26, 2019 Posted March 26, 2019 Yeap. Useful stuff. I believe all equipment should be available to every country, and let the Mission creator decide who gets what an dhow, just like the flyable modules.
cailean_556 Posted March 31, 2019 Author Posted March 31, 2019 Thanks for the support Baco. I agree, in principle, that it would be nice to "pick and choose" who has what equipment but that would likely require a massive rewrite of how coalitions work. For the most part, each nation is relatively well reflected in DCS based on their current or past capabilities. However when it comes to ground and naval equipment especially, there are some nations (notable ones) that lack such assets. Notable examples are the UK (which has no naval assets, and very few air assets - especially fighters) and China (which has no Army, despite having the largest standing army in the world).
Xilon_x Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) we want real forces that are not fictitious. EXAMPLE: these are the real forces of the Czech aeronautics number of aircraft and type of aircraft. https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vzdu%C5%A1n%C3%A9_s%C3%ADly_arm%C3%A1dy_%C4%8Cesk%C3%A9_republiky these are the real forces of the Italian aeronautics number of aircraft and type of aircraft. https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeronautica_Militare_(Italia) in this case the Italian airway in DCS is not represented missing the TORNADO missing the EUROFIGHTER.nelle Italian navy forces only an Italian and re-represented aircraft ..... AV-8B + Harrier II. this is the list of the Italian navy https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviazione_Navale#Storia if you want to see the list of all the forces of the world with number of planes and types go here. are real data. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_air_forces an Italian cannot use a f15 or a f18 and a fictitious is not real. a Russian cannot use a f15 or f18 and a fictitious not real. and stupid for an Italian to use an f-15 or a tomcat. Edited March 31, 2019 by Xilon_x
cailean_556 Posted April 1, 2019 Author Posted April 1, 2019 we want real forces that are not fictitious. EXAMPLE: these are the real forces of the Czech aeronautics number of aircraft and type of aircraft. https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vzdu%C5%A1n%C3%A9_s%C3%ADly_arm%C3%A1dy_%C4%8Cesk%C3%A9_republiky these are the real forces of the Italian aeronautics number of aircraft and type of aircraft. https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeronautica_Militare_(Italia) in this case the Italian airway in DCS is not represented missing the TORNADO missing the EUROFIGHTER.nelle Italian navy forces only an Italian and re-represented aircraft ..... AV-8B + Harrier II. this is the list of the Italian navy https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviazione_Navale#Storia if you want to see the list of all the forces of the world with number of planes and types go here. are real data. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_air_forces an Italian cannot use a f15 or a f18 and a fictitious is not real. a Russian cannot use a f15 or f18 and a fictitious not real. and stupid for an Italian to use an f-15 or a tomcat. That's your point of view and your opinion of course, Xilon, and you're not wrong. However I wouldn't say that Italians using an F-15 or a Tomcat (two premier - IRL - fighter aircraft of their day) would be stupid. ;) This is a non-exhaustive (key word) list of things I'd like to see included in DCS based on what I'm currently working on (and have noticed is lacking in certain countries arsenals when making missions/fictional scenarios). I would certainly like to see each country receive their accurate military assets however, for some, there just isn't an asset modelled (such as the Tornado ADV, or an F-104S Starfighter - in Italy's case) however where there IS an asset modelled, and a country has (or had) access to it, it would be nice to see it included. I've been looking into the Czech Republic and Slovakia recently, and they share many of the same systems - at least before their modernisation efforts - such as the MiG-29s (though Slovakia held theirs for longer), T-72s and BMP1/2s (which they call BVP, not BMP however they're externally similar). However neither the Czech or Slovak forces in DCS have proper land forces and both nations lack access to the MiG-29 (and livery) despite both owning/using the MiG-29 (exact variant is irrelevant for the moment) at some point in their history. Where the EXACT type isn't available, the option to assign a newer or lesser type that COULD be used to fill that gap (such as a MiG-21bis in place of a MiG-21 Lancer, for example) would be nice (from a mission creator perspective).
Baco Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 we want real forces that are not fictitious. EXAMPLE: these are the real forces of the Czech aeronautics number of aircraft and type of aircraft. https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vzdu%C5%A1n%C3%A9_s%C3%ADly_arm%C3%A1dy_%C4%8Cesk%C3%A9_republiky these are the real forces of the Italian aeronautics number of aircraft and type of aircraft. https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeronautica_Militare_(Italia) in this case the Italian airway in DCS is not represented missing the TORNADO missing the EUROFIGHTER.nelle Italian navy forces only an Italian and re-represented aircraft ..... AV-8B + Harrier II. this is the list of the Italian navy https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviazione_Navale#Storia if you want to see the list of all the forces of the world with number of planes and types go here. are real data. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_air_forces an Italian cannot use a f15 or a f18 and a fictitious is not real. a Russian cannot use a f15 or f18 and a fictitious not real. and stupid for an Italian to use an f-15 or a tomcat. Why on earth? Let Mission Editors decide Who flies What. Because we will ANYWAYS, only you are making it harder for us. AND the actual DCS country allocation of assets is anything BUT realistic. its not only fictitious, but is biased, and ridiculously lacking. so in order to MAKE it realistic we have to go to grate lenths thinking very carefully the coalitions so maybe CUb acan have T 55´s or Britain ANY kind of ship, or the Blue side to have ANY sort of Early Warning radar, or AAA guns, or transport SHIPS! Since I really really doubt that they will do a correct OOB of every country in DCS or future ones, I think is best to give free access to existing Assets to the mission editor to be able to create credible battles or missions....
Baco Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) besides I am really getting tired of the "realistic" aproach.. we don´t even have realistic deployment areas, or maps, have you EVER seen an A-10 fly in Gerogia? ever? will it ever? And if you say "well, it could" since.. bla bla bla... Well maybe Italy buys some F-18 C on 2020 or 2021 and I can´t fly them because some say its not realistic.... Hell USA Bought MIG 29A 21 planes!!! And if it was not a flyable module you would NOT be able to place a MIG 29 A on the USA roster.... Edited April 1, 2019 by Baco
Xilon_x Posted April 2, 2019 Posted April 2, 2019 besides I am really getting tired of the "realistic" aproach.. we don´t even have realistic deployment areas, or maps, have you EVER seen an A-10 fly in Gerogia? ever? will it ever? And if you say "well, it could" since.. bla bla bla... Well maybe Italy buys some F-18 C on 2020 or 2021 and I can´t fly them because some say its not realistic.... Hell USA Bought MIG 29A 21 planes!!! And if it was not a flyable module you would NOT be able to place a MIG 29 A on the USA roster.... impossible ...... the f-18 we Italians will never buy them because they are too expensive (if we can lease them). f-35s have already cost Italy a lot. U.S.A. a have also increased the costs of NATO and we Italians host them in more than 14 Italian bases nooooooo ........ maybe in the future Italy must break the agreements with NATO it costs us too much to be defended by U.S.A.
cailean_556 Posted April 4, 2019 Author Posted April 4, 2019 What Baco is saying is that there are fictional scenarios or "what ifs" that mission designers might want to implement. For example, one of my campaign ideas has Cuba in place of Abkhazia, Australia in place of Georgia, Algeria as Russia and Insurgents in place of South Ossetia. Now, WHAT IF, Australia decided to buy a new aircraft carrier (they did have plans to buy a dedicated carrier however that dismissed due to budgetary concerns). Australia's Navy (in DCS) doesn't even have the frigates (that are already in DCS) it operates (that are being phased out of service). It would be NICE to be able to add the Stennis or Vinson as a carrier for Australia. Or add F-14s to Australia's arsenal - if it made sense (it wouldn't, even in my fictional world, but still). I'd like to see each nation represented accurately in DCS (by default) however I'd also like to have the ability to assign an aircraft type to countries 'on the fly' to create different scenarios. Such as: Maybe Australia became a Soviet state instead of a Western ally and they bought Su-33s instead of F/A-18s and leased the Varyag (Kuznetsov's sister ship, which is now the PLANs aircraft carrier Liaoning). Without modding, that's not possible currently. I could make Russia, China, Iran and Australia 'BLUFOR' and the US, UK, France, Germany and North Korea 'REDFOR' (something that is likely impossible to EVER happen - at least in our life times) with no trouble, but I couldn't assign specific asset types, or extra assets, to countries. If we could get back on topic, that would be great... One the subject of Country additions: Australia: Hawk 127...As an AI module. Oman, Indonesia: Hawk 200 (technically Hawk 203/209) A possible flyable module (to build off the now defunct Hawk T1) could be either Hawk 127 or 200, though the Hawk 200 is more capable with a radar, IR, SARH and BVR AAMS, Mavericks, Sea Eagle, FLIR and LGBs.
Baco Posted April 4, 2019 Posted April 4, 2019 We are asking for more flexibility in scenarios and missions creation that is currently posible. Why would anybody oppose to that? and all the nay sayers don´t even create missions... ;)
Xilon_x Posted April 4, 2019 Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) I do not ask much, I only ask for an aircraft that could represent GERMANY-ITALY-ENGLAND and is the TORNADO. SPAIN uses the f18 that are present in dcs.la FRANCE at the MIRAGE 2000 and is present in dcs.AUSTRIA uses the Northrop F-5E Tiger II present in DCS. GREECE uses the MIRAGE2000 present in DCS. BULGARIA uses the MIG-29 present in dcs.la ROMANIA uses the MIG-21 present in dcs. HUNGARY the mig-29 present in dcs. The slovakia uses the mig-29 present in dcs.the Czech republic uses the mig-29 present in dcs. Poland uses the mig-29 present in dcs. Ukraine uses the mig-29 present in dcs. Turkey uses the Northrop F-5 Freedom Fighter present in dcs. Norway uses Northrop F-5 and is present in dcs.la Sweden uses the SAAB AJ 37 Viggen ede and is present in dcs.La Finland uses the F18 that is present in dcs....MISS the appeal to GERMANY ITALY AND ENGLAND. Edited April 4, 2019 by Xilon_x
Xilon_x Posted April 4, 2019 Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) currently Italy and England in DCS can use HARRIER II while GERMANY currently in dcs can use the MIG-29. the solution to this problem is either a TORNADO or an F-16 or an F104 to stay more or less in competition. FIAT G91? no it's too old. Edited April 5, 2019 by Xilon_x
cailean_556 Posted April 5, 2019 Author Posted April 5, 2019 currently Italy and England in DCS can use HARRIER II while GERMANY currently in dcs can use the MIG-29. the solution to this problem is either a TORNADO or an F-16 or an F104 to stay more or less in competition. FIAT G91? no it's too old. The issue here is that accessing the documents required to build a DCS-level module of the Tornado currently out of the question. It's probably not that ED or 3rd parties don't WANT to model a Tornado, they're hamstrung by governments not wanting to provide information or not having reliable access to documents/companies/ex-pilots/maintainers. The reason there's so many US aircraft in DCS is partly because the US views platforms like DCS as a credible recruiting tool and their 'Secrecy' laws are, in some ways, less stringent than other countries. You'll get your wish (ala F-16) in a year or two (hopefully sooner, but you can't rush these things) and I'd be right there with you in line for an F-104 (preferably F-104S, but any variant would be awesome). But...this thread is mostly about expanding the arsenals of all countries in the Mission Editor with (more so existing) DCS assets of an identical or similar type (including their liveries - kinda wierd flying a Cuban, Czech or Slovak MiG-29 with a Russian livery, for example) as well as capabilities (such as the IR strobe in my original post) that would greatly assist Mission/Campaign Creators.
Xilon_x Posted April 5, 2019 Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) The issue here is that accessing the documents required to build a DCS-level module of the Tornado currently out of the question. It's probably not that ED or 3rd parties don't WANT to model a Tornado, they're hamstrung by governments not wanting to provide information or not having reliable access to documents/companies/ex-pilots/maintainers. The reason there's so many US aircraft in DCS is partly because the US views platforms like DCS as a credible recruiting tool and their 'Secrecy' laws are, in some ways, less stringent than other countries. You'll get your wish (ala F-16) in a year or two (hopefully sooner, but you can't rush these things) and I'd be right there with you in line for an F-104 (preferably F-104S, but any variant would be awesome). But...this thread is mostly about expanding the arsenals of all countries in the Mission Editor with (more so existing) DCS assets of an identical or similar type (including their liveries - kinda wierd flying a Cuban, Czech or Slovak MiG-29 with a Russian livery, for example) as well as capabilities (such as the IR strobe in my original post) that would greatly assist Mission/Campaign Creators. Cuban MiG-21 fighter is present in dcs SLOVAK MIG29 presetn in dcs czech republic mig 29 present in dcs. you ADD only a simple skin. Edited April 5, 2019 by Xilon_x
cailean_556 Posted April 10, 2019 Author Posted April 10, 2019 Cuban MiG-21 fighter is present in dcs SLOVAK MIG29 presetn in dcs czech republic mig 29 present in dcs. you ADD only a simple skin. What part of "expanding the arsenals of all countries in the Mission Editor with (more so existing) DCS assets of an identical or similar type (including their liveries - kinda weird flying a Cuban, Czech or Slovak MiG-29 with a Russian livery, for example)" made you think otherwise?
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