VR for us BFGs?

[9echo]

Hi all,

 

Apologies if there is another thread on this, and please feel free to redirect me there (I could not find one).

 

I am about to take the step into the VR world now that Miles’ PointCtrl is hitting the street. Now, you’re probs thinking ‘Can he not read?? Everyone is saying to buy Rift S, now come on!!’ but after giving it a go on measuring my IPD this morning and found it to be 74mm’ish because I’m pretty much a BFG (I presume you measure between the middle of the left pupil to the middle of the right pupil?), I was a bit disappointed given how FB states the best IPD min-max range for Rift S users is 61.5-65.5mm. Now, my question is: What’s considered the better sets for us with too much runway between our eyes? What’s the implication of using Rift S with an extra cm between my eyes?

[p1t1o]

Honestly, its going to be a little subjective, but suffice to say, if you are well outside of the average, the fixed IPD of the Rift will make it quite likely that you will experience not only increased eye strain but possibly also decreased visual quality.

 

These effects could be severe or mild enough to be unnoticeable, there's only one way to find out for sure unfortunately, but with a high IPD, it should be a red flag.

 

Software IPD is not worth much and really is a fix for a different thing (scale perspective).

[Panthera_Tigris]

 

‘Can he not read?? Everyone is saying to buy Rift S, now come on!!’

 

Lol, that's bad advice. Who's saying that? We are days/ weeks away from Reverb and Index getting into consumer hands. The smart bet would be to wait for the reviews and then pick one of them.

 

If the Rift S is still the best bet, even I will buy it. But right now, unless you have a hard limit of USD 400 on your budget, the logical option would be to wait a few weeks.

 

And this should apply doubly for your specific case. With IPD that high, why the heck are you even considering a HMD without hardware adjustments?

[Harlikwin]

I would double and triple check your IPD. Average for men is 64 +/- 3mm or so, so unless you are truly a mutant my first instinct is to tell you mis-measured which is easy enough to do. But yes, mirror + ruler (or calpier if you have it) center if pupil to center of other pupil is how its done. Or an optometrist, or some phone apps can do it.

 

But if it truly is that big, you are probably out of luck. I think the original CV1 goes to like 71mm. You might wait for the Valve index or Acer Ojo which have IPD adjustment. I would stay well clear of the RiftS and the HP reverb if your IPD is 74.

Edited May 28, 2019 by Harlikwin

[9echo]

@Harlikwin: Thanks for the tip on using an app! Although I guess it will never be as reliable as an optometrist, I tried one app and it told me my IPD is 65.4mm, so I guess you are right! Didn't even think of my manual measure being such an extreme outlier! :doh:

 

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Lol, that's bad advice. Who's saying that? We are days/ weeks away from Reverb and Index getting into consumer hands.

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And this should apply doubly for your specific case. With IPD that high, why the heck are you even considering a HMD without hardware adjustments?

 

The forum consensus seems to be for Rift S to be the best bet given its fairly straight forward PnP functionality at the moment, sounds like Index and Reverb is more hassle with regards to setup and other stuff? I have no clue, I'm reading the forum like a reverend reading the Bible at the moment trying to figure out which one to go for. But I am likely to do as yourself, wait for all the feedback on all of these and make a decision later on.

[Harlikwin]

No worries. Most people don't look like this IRL...

 

 

I think the mirror method has a pile of issues, coming from a guy who measures things very accurately for a living as part of his real job. The app method could be off some too, best to take a few readings. For me I got like 67 using the mirror and 65 using the app, which matches my DCS force IPD setting, and my rift cv1 setting is usually about 66. So take it for what its worth.

 

As for headsets, Its more about your system specs and how many pixels it can push.

 

RiftS. Lower end

Index. Mid end

Reverb. High end.

 

No one really knows much on the last 2 as they haven't been released. I'm in the reverb camp myself, but its different for everyone based on their needs.

[some1]

The forum consensus seems to be for Rift S to be the best bet given its fairly straight forward PnP functionality at the moment, sounds like Index and Reverb is more hassle with regards to setup and other stuff? I have no clue, I'm reading the forum like a reverend reading the Bible at the moment trying to figure out which one to go for. But I am likely to do as yourself, wait for all the feedback on all of these and make a decision later on.

 

Rift S is the best thing you can buy right now, as the other two haven't been released yet and no one tested them except for a few youtubers. But is true Oculus has arguably the best software algorithms and hassle free setup.

[Panthera_Tigris]

OP, I am not sure which threads you are reading, but if you see the sticky Rift S thread at the top - a lot of people are having technical issues and saying its not enough of a upgrade from the original. Some have even said they are returning theirs.

 

The obvious advantage of Rift S is that is available NOW and that is is CHEAP. It is also certainly an improvement over Gen 1 so if you don't have Gen 1 already, it might be worth it. But not in YOUR specific case because you are certainly an outlier when it comes to IPD.

 

But the biggest argument AGAINST a Rift S is that possibly (and probably) better headsets are just around the corner. In fact, the reviews for them have been promising enough to prevent me from buying a Rift S even though it's so cheap right now.