Eagle7907 Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 (edited) So I noticed that the max weight value isn’t correct at all. NATOPS says 76,000lbs for cat takeoff or 72,000lbs for shore takeoff. I’m guessing the 74,340, or whatever it is, is a value between the two and a limitation of DCS World. My question is, in the sim, does this limit hold water? Is it different? What’s the actual simulation limit? What’s simulated in this aspect currently? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Edited June 7, 2019 by Eagle7907 Win 10, AMD FX9590/water cooled, 32GB RAM, 250GB SSD system, 1TB SSD (DCS installed), 2TB HD, Warthog HOTAS, MFG rudders, Track IR 5, LG Ultrawide, Logitech Speakers w/sub, Fans, Case, cell phone, wallet, keys.....printer
HunterICX Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 Actually it is 72,000 lbs is for the A variant on shore take off and the B/D have 74,349lbs on multiple sources I've found online. I've found the 76,000 lbs for the D variant for Cat Take off in here: https://info.publicintelligence.net/F14AAD-1.pdf but I can't find anywhere if that's the same for A and B variant.
Eagle7907 Posted June 7, 2019 Author Posted June 7, 2019 (edited) Max weight I have the B NATOPS. Found it on Hoggit. It does say as stated above. I don’t see anything that says 74,349 for max weights anywhere in this manual. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Edited June 7, 2019 by Eagle7907 Win 10, AMD FX9590/water cooled, 32GB RAM, 250GB SSD system, 1TB SSD (DCS installed), 2TB HD, Warthog HOTAS, MFG rudders, Track IR 5, LG Ultrawide, Logitech Speakers w/sub, Fans, Case, cell phone, wallet, keys.....printer
Raubritter Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 F-14B. Chapter 4. Operating Limitations. 1. Catapult launch — 76,000 pounds. /scip/ 2. Field takeoff and emergency landings (minimum rate of descent landings only) — 72,000 pounds. 3. Field landings — 60,000 pounds.
HunterICX Posted June 7, 2019 Posted June 7, 2019 I have the B NATOPS. Found it on Hoggit. It does say as stated above. I don’t see anything that says 74,349 for max weights anywhere in this manual. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Just found that same manual, I stand corrected. Now I wonder why some online pages about the F14 state that 74,349lbs as max weight. :huh:
Quid Posted June 8, 2019 Posted June 8, 2019 Just found that same manual, I stand corrected. Now I wonder why some online pages about the F14 state that 74,349lbs as max weight. :huh: The reason so many websites list that number is because 74,349lbs has been a publicly released figure for the F-14's maximum weight since the 1970s. I'm not certain where that figure came from precisely, if it was based on experimental loadouts, or Grumman's test-dropping the airframe to failure, but I know its been quoted for decades, printed and re-printed in aircraft reference books and even Tomcat-specific books, but it doesn't match the manual numbers. Rig: i9 10900KF @5.3GHz | 64GB G.Skill DDR4 3600MHz | ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 3090 24GB OC | ASUS Maximus XII Formula | 2x 2TB Intel SSD6 NVMe M.2 | VKB F-14CG on Gunfighter III Base | TM Warthog HOTAS | TM Rudder Pedals | HP Reverb G2 Hangar: FC3 | F-86F | F-4E [Pre-Ordered] | F-5E | F-14A/B | F-15E | F-16C | F/A-18C | Mirage 2000C | JF-17 | MiG-15bis | MiG-19P | MiG-21bis | AJS-37 | AV-8B | L39 | C-101 | A-10C/CII | Yak-52 | P-51D | P-47D | Fw 190 A-8/D-9 | Bf 109 | Spitfire | I-16 | UH-1 Huey
draconus Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 You can find 74,349lbs limit in NAVAIR Standard Aircraft Characteristics both for A (1977, service) and D (1985, preservice). Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
Eagle7907 Posted June 10, 2019 Author Posted June 10, 2019 So it sounds like that number may have been a preliminary number or at least the max for the A. So again...... My question is, in the sim, does this limit hold water? Is it different? What’s the actual simulation limit? What’s simulated in this aspect currently? It is really difficult to be loaded with bombs and have 100% fuel with the 74,349. Obviously with 76,000 it is easily done. Makes me wonder if the 76,000 was revised after the B was refitted for strike missions? Anyways, I would really like to know what HB knows and what number is correctly simulated. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Win 10, AMD FX9590/water cooled, 32GB RAM, 250GB SSD system, 1TB SSD (DCS installed), 2TB HD, Warthog HOTAS, MFG rudders, Track IR 5, LG Ultrawide, Logitech Speakers w/sub, Fans, Case, cell phone, wallet, keys.....printer
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