Extranajero Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 Does anyone have a diagram showing the control stick movement limits of a representative jet fighter\trainer ? I have just spent ages searching for one with no luck --------------------------------------------------------- PC specs:- Intel 386DX, 2mb memory, onboard graphics, 14" 640x480 monitor Modules owned:- Bachem Natter, Cessna 150, Project Pluto, Sopwith Snipe
Dropship Pilot Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) Here's some data for the F-18: Left/right: +/-3" on a radius of 12.493" Front/Back: +2.5"/-5" on a radius of 18.529" The radius given is from the point of swivel to height of the middle finger. As you can see from the data the F-18 has two differend points of swivel 6.036" above each other. Cheers, DSP Edited August 21, 2019 by Dropship Pilot
Extranajero Posted August 21, 2019 Author Posted August 21, 2019 That's very helpful - thank you :) --------------------------------------------------------- PC specs:- Intel 386DX, 2mb memory, onboard graphics, 14" 640x480 monitor Modules owned:- Bachem Natter, Cessna 150, Project Pluto, Sopwith Snipe
streakeagle Posted August 22, 2019 Posted August 22, 2019 (edited) The geometry of sticks varies greatly with the type of aircraft. I have a real F-4 stick and I have mounted my Warthog with an extension chosen to match the real stick's pitch movement as measured by displacement in inches at the tip of the POV hat/trim switch. The roll limits of the real F-4 stick are much smaller than the pitch limits, so the Warthog stick moves much farther than the real F-4 stick. I could edit the roll axis curves to hit the limits at the same displacement as the real F-4 stick, but this hasn't been a problem. I seldom need max roll limits and if I do, I can just move my legs just a tiny bit (an inch?) to permit the stick to hit its limits. I just found the spreadsheet I used to calculate the extension length I needed to match the displacement at the top of the stick. If you pitched the F-4 stick fully forward, then fully backwards and measured the distance using a reference point (I think I used the tip of the trim switch or maybe the trigger), I measured 10.5 inches. Side to side I measured 9.5 inches. The Warthog measured 6.5 inches in both directions. Given a radius of 9.5 inches, I calculated that I needed a 14.8 cm extension to match the real stick in pitch (forward/back motion). 14.8 cm was convenient since the extension was available in 15 cm (150 mm). The Warthog has a larger angular displacement, so the length of the stick is shorter and the base of the stick has to be mounted much higher than the pivot point of the real F-4 stick so that the top of the grips are at the same height. If you are interested, I could make a diagram showing the real F-4 stick, its dimensions and its actual range of motion. But the key parameters of 10.5/9.5 inches of displacement at the top of the stick for pitch/roll should tell you most of what you need to know. Edited August 22, 2019 by streakeagle [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Extranajero Posted August 22, 2019 Author Posted August 22, 2019 Thanks :) it looks like I have hit on a realistic range of movement by accident - kind of. The stick is mounted on a box, on the floor and the throw corresponds to roughly 5 inches in all directions. It's limited to 3 inches side to side by my knees so I have adjusted the roll curve in DCS so that corresponds to full deflection. Aft stick is correct and forward stick is limited by my monitor shelf, so I left that alone. --------------------------------------------------------- PC specs:- Intel 386DX, 2mb memory, onboard graphics, 14" 640x480 monitor Modules owned:- Bachem Natter, Cessna 150, Project Pluto, Sopwith Snipe
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