Mig29A question

[169th_Moose]

Hi,

 

Wondering how come the MiG29A from Russia and Ukraine can support Air to ground but not the not the German version... Dont they have the same ability's? They do bare the same model.... Curious....I've just noticed it when creating a mission. Always tought that the Mig29A was air to air, but when creating the map I've notice differently. Any ideas?....

 

Man I learn everyday with this sim, Im hooked, bring it on. hehe. Cheers.

 

 

Hi,

 

Интересующ how come MiG29A от России и Украины может

поддержать воздух для того чтобы молоть но не не немецкий вариант... Dont они имеют такую же способность? Они оголяют такое же модельное.... Любознательно....Я как раз замечал его создавая полет. Всегда tought что Mig29A было воздухом, котор нужно

проветрить, но создавая карту я имею извещение по-разному. Все идеи?....

 

Человек ii1 учит ежедневное с этим sim, Закрепленное Im, принесите его дальше. hehe. Cheers.

 

Hope the translation is succesfulll

[SwingKid]

The F-15 was also capable of air-to-ground, but the US never used it this way. Its role was dedicated air-to-air combat.

 

The Germans tasked the MiG-29 the same way after reunification. Luftwaffe MiG pilots never used air-to-ground weapons.

 

-SK

[Drakkhen]

Beside... the german 29A can take the awesome 27T while the russian doesn't. :wink:

[Octav]

Beside... the german 29A can take the awesome 27T while the russian doesn't. :wink:

 

:?: :!:

[Drakkhen]

Beside... the german 29A can take the awesome 27T while the russian doesn't. :wink:

:?: :!:

You really have Lock On? :wink:

 

Hmm... try to put 27T on a russian 29A. The S takes them but not the A, don't know why but it's so.

[Octav]

Beside... the german 29A can take the awesome 27T while the russian doesn't. :wink:

:?: :!:

You really have Lock On? :wink:

 

Hmm... try to put 27T on a russian 29A. The S takes them but not the A, don't know why but it's so.

 

I don't fly the German 29...

And I've heard something about enabling the 27T on the Russian A's as well, as it appears that they were also fitted with that capability.

[ThirdELTPoznan]

Beside... the german 29A can take the awesome 27T while the russian doesn't. :wink:

:?: :!:

You really have Lock On? :wink:

 

Hmm... try to put 27T on a russian 29A. The S takes them but not the A, don't know why but it's so.

 

Yes some of them can. It all depends on a modernisation. Basicly the MiG's 29A (9-12) (as they were delivered) couldnt take R-27T missiles, they were modernised so now thay can.

[Drakkhen]

Fine, cause it's a good one... a damn good one. :twisted:

[Chizh]

We have an F-15A weapons handbook. And we always be wondered, why in USAF never to exploit the air-ground capabilities of this plane. They are more significant, than at Su-27/33, and the nomenclature of A-G weapons is not less than at A-10.

[SwingKid]

We have an F-15A weapons handbook. And we always be wondered, why in USAF never to exploit the air-ground capabilities of this plane. They are more significant, than at Su-27/33, and the nomenclature of A-G weapons is not less than at A-10.

 

It's a political reason. After Vietnam, USAF insisted that multi-role fighters like F-4 were not acceptable, and demanded a pure air-combat fighter - the expensive F-15. They received the necessary money from Congress. Eventually, McDonnell Douglas started to experiment putting bombs on F-15A.

 

Then, the competition arrived from F-16, which had many similar capabilities, longer range, and lower cost. To reduce the competition and to receive money from US government for both aircraft, USAF emphasized the differences, that the F-15 was a pure air-to-air fighter ("not a pound for air to ground!"), and F-16 was needed for carrying bombs. Air-to-ground capability of F-15 was never again discussed.

 

Now we see again history repeating itself, with F-35 competing for money - only now the opposite, F-22 needed to quickly become "F/A-22" in order to survive.

 

-SK

[golfsierra2]

See this for details:

 

http://www.sipotec.net/Neu_Ausr/Waffensysteme/mig29g_gt_beschr.html

 

The MiG29 G and MiG29GT (trainer version) were technicaly capabel of delivering even air-to-ground ammo, but it was never trained nor were the weapon loads available. The MIG29G was used solely in the air-to-air role.

 

Weapons which could be used were:

 

2 x R-27R1 (AA-10a/ALAMO)

4 x R-73A (AA-11/ARCHER

x GSh-301-Kanone (150 Schuß, 1500-1800 Schuß/min)

[169th_Moose]

Thanks for all your inputs, greatly appreciated. Bought LockOn, the first copy that came out at EB Games when it came out. Never looked back since then, even trough all the bugs. I stuck with it. Never gave up. Actualy still learning. Still cant get enought of it. I think its the learning process that had me hooked :lol: Also thanks for 169th Panthers for allowing me to grow my skills as a virtual pilot with them. Especialy Mustang & our Squad Leader Ice. Salute.

 

Cheers