VIXEN413 Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 Hey all, Just recently updated to watercooling of my cpu to get rid of that big chunky fan and heat exchanger. Now the case looks empty and aerated but the nearby M2 drive does not get as much air running around as it used to since that fan is gone. I did found some little zalmann heat skins made for RAM and was wondering if it would help my M2 sdd to stick them on top, keep them cool.... What s your idea? BR Rig: MB Gigabite z390UD, CPU Intel I7 8700k, RAM 32G DDR4 3200 Gskill ripjaws, GPU MSI RTX2080SuperOC, HDD Crucial mx500 1tb M2 sata, PSU Corsair 850W, watercooling Corsair h100, Controlers TM f/a 18 stick on Virpil warbrd base, TM cougar f16 stick on cougar base, Cougar F16 throttle on TUSBA, ch pedals, TM cougar MFD 27" monitor with trk IR 5 and HP Reverb HMD. Modules F18, F16, F86, Mig15, FW 190D9, Nellis range map, Aggr campaign, Middle East map
Demon_ Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 SSD operating temperature is 0°C to +70°C. No need to put anything. Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche.
norbot Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 SSD operating temperature is 0°C to +70°C. No need to put anything. I don't really agree with you. An overheated SSD will automatically get throttled down by your system, so it becomes slower under heavy load. This is not a theoretical idea but exactly what I encountered with my Samsung 970 Evo. Put it under serious load and you will see, what happens. That's what products like this are for: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Computer-Kryom-Passive-Cooler-M-2-2280-SSD/dp/B0742LYNWN/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=aqua+computer+kryom.2&qid=1577658915&sr=8-3
Sn8ke_iis Posted December 30, 2019 Posted December 30, 2019 What are heat skins? Do you mean thermal interface material (TIM)? What MB do you have? Most current ones should have a heat sink and TIM included. If not I would go with what norbot posted. I like to check temps with a cheap laser thermometer I got at Home Depot for $15 as well as readouts in AIDA 64 to get an idea of hotspots for liquid cooling. NVMe SSDs along with the Southbridge controller are consistently the hottest parts of my motherboard that aren't under waterblocks. They can easily exceed 70 degrees C during long gaming sessions.
chrisgrind Posted December 30, 2019 Posted December 30, 2019 Heat skin on M2 sdd What m2 is it? Sata? Nvme? Make sure it has latest firmware. And heatsink won't hurt, probably will help. Especially with less airflow. I'd be making sure it has a fan pointed near it regardless. I bought a 1tb and 500gb crucial p1 m2 nvme and the 1tb ran stupid hot. 45c idle. 90c copying. Firmware update brought it down to 60c copying. I bought heatsink to put on, but haven't done it yet. Planning to let people know outcome once I do. But wanted to run for a while to see if it works. My understanding is that for most nvme, it's recommended to have a heat sink. M2 sata, I don't think it's as big deal. Double check heatsink will fit. I'm not sure my heatsink will fit on my mobo under the gpu. It's new build, so didn't realise that till it was built. Ryzen 5 3600 | 5700 XT | 32gb | NVME
BitMaster Posted December 30, 2019 Posted December 30, 2019 Having watercooling does not mean you do not need plenty fans for cold air intake to cool the motherboard, RAM, any kind of drives incl. NVMe M2 SSD's and not to forget the waste heat which originates from your graphic card, no matter if watercooled or air cooled. Foremost the backplate of the card will dissipate a lot of heat. You wont need to run those fans as high as if you solely rely on air cooling, 1/3-1/2 speed is enough. There is a video that shows what GPU backplate heat alone can do: Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
Demon_ Posted December 31, 2019 Posted December 31, 2019 Having watercooling does not mean you do not need plenty fans for cold air intake to cool the motherboard, RAM, any kind of drives incl. NVMe M2 SSD's and not to forget the waste heat which originates from your graphic card, no matter if watercooled or air cooled. Foremost the backplate of the card will dissipate a lot of heat. You wont need to run those fans as high as if you solely rely on air cooling, 1/3-1/2 speed is enough. This. Any 120mm fans at 1200rpm or below are quiet. 1000rpm and below, for a 140mm fan. Why remove a $10 fan to put a $10 heat sink? Many of those components generate only few watts of heat, but still need a mimimum air flow. Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche.
HotRod87 Posted December 31, 2019 Posted December 31, 2019 You can never have enough fans. These are 3000 RPMers EVGA 2080TI FTW3 ULTRA - 99000k - 32gb 3200 14-14-14-34 - ASROK Phantom 9 - EVGA 1300W - 970 EVO Plus 1TB [X2] - Noctua D15 - Noctua NF-A14 iPPC-3000 [X8] - Asus PG349q 34" 3440 x 1440 @120hz - Oculus S - EVGA D87 Case
BitMaster Posted December 31, 2019 Posted December 31, 2019 My 2 top 120mm fans are faced DOWNWARDS to blow cold air over VRM and RAM. Since it has a mesh front door with also plenty mesh elsewhere I force air in with a total of 4x120mm and 1x 200m and have a sole 120mm on the read side to pull heat away, overpressure forces air out on all the meshed parts. My shabby VRM got too hot any other way when doing brute overclocking and test runs. Buildzoids YT vid made me feel good that I did it the right way as my watercooled GPU`s backplate gets extremely warm, actually quite hot, I guess due to VRM parts sitting there, or RAM, dunno which, maybe both. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
HotRod87 Posted January 1, 2020 Posted January 1, 2020 I have: 3 blowers in front 3 suckers up top 2 suckers in back Motherboard always stays under 30 C, even with CPU at 100% for 8 hours. EVGA 2080TI FTW3 ULTRA - 99000k - 32gb 3200 14-14-14-34 - ASROK Phantom 9 - EVGA 1300W - 970 EVO Plus 1TB [X2] - Noctua D15 - Noctua NF-A14 iPPC-3000 [X8] - Asus PG349q 34" 3440 x 1440 @120hz - Oculus S - EVGA D87 Case
VIXEN413 Posted January 1, 2020 Author Posted January 1, 2020 Thanks all for answers and a happy new year! Well, Indeed I went water cooling and got rid of the fan that was with the cpu cooler but somehow, I gained ventilation by adding the 2 extraction fans attached to the radiator that are blowing air via the top openings. Still have 1 extraction fan at the back and 1 sucker fan at the front The idea is that I was wondering if it was a good idea to add some cooling to the M2 memory. As I found some old Zalman heatskin, I was wondering if that will do any good. Thanks again Rig: MB Gigabite z390UD, CPU Intel I7 8700k, RAM 32G DDR4 3200 Gskill ripjaws, GPU MSI RTX2080SuperOC, HDD Crucial mx500 1tb M2 sata, PSU Corsair 850W, watercooling Corsair h100, Controlers TM f/a 18 stick on Virpil warbrd base, TM cougar f16 stick on cougar base, Cougar F16 throttle on TUSBA, ch pedals, TM cougar MFD 27" monitor with trk IR 5 and HP Reverb HMD. Modules F18, F16, F86, Mig15, FW 190D9, Nellis range map, Aggr campaign, Middle East map
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