GS6/LS6 AUTO mode

[LastRifleRound]

Does the JF17 have an AUTO mode availabe to it similar to the Hornet, where when a quantity of more than one is selected, and those bombs have different targets, the intersection of all the selected launch zones only is displayed, and HUD guidance is given to this area?

 

JF17 currently operates like Hornets manual mode. Not sure if the auto type release isn't implemented yet or is not a capability of the actual jet.

[foxwxl]

LS6 & GB6 can use PP mode for continuous attack, set PP point for all pylon(ie. 4 LS6 ) before U entering combat, after reaching firing range , just press pickle 4 times, all bomb will head to its own target.

 

Also, if U select a quantity of 2, IAM can be release at a point with tandem or side by side option.

[LastRifleRound]

LS6 & GB6 can use PP mode for continuous attack, set PP point for all pylon(ie. 4 LS6 ) before U entering combat, after reaching firing range , just press pickle 4 times, all bomb will head to its own target.

 

Also, if U select a quantity of 2, IAM can be release at a point with tandem or side by side option.

 

I think you misunderstand my post.

 

In a true quantity release, the LAR zone showed on the HSI in AUTO mode corresponds to every single station so a simultaneous release can be performed. The LAR zone in the HSI corresponds to the overlap of all targets in this mode, not just the active station.

 

I am aware multiple individual bombs can be programmed for different targets then released one by one. Auto mode is different.

 

QTY currently only selects the number of bombs to drop on one PP point, and maxes out at 2.

 

The JF17 in PP mode currently behaves like the Hornet in MAN mode, I was curious if JF17 had a mode similar to AUTO mode as described above.

[LastRifleRound]

To add to this, the current LS6 implementation seems flawed, though I could be wrong.

 

Just tested this. 2 LS6 bombs, 2 different PP targets within a few hundred feet. No probem.

 

Set QTY to 2. Set impact azimuth for target 1 to 74 degrees, set impact azimuth to target 2 to 254 degrees. The system will show the LAR for the current bomb, yet it will still allow release of both bombs, even though at least one of the bombs has no chance of hitting its target. I released the bombs and sure enough, that is what occurred.

 

Of course, you can pre-step through your bombs to ensure you're in LAR for all of them, but this is very unlikely to be how it works on the real jet.

 

I believe if the QTY > 1, then the LAR should be the overlap of all bombs in QTY, or no LAR at all if overlap is not possible. Also, I was carrying 4 LS6's, but the max QTY possible was still 2. This may be an actual aircraft limitation, but just putting that out there.

 

EDIT: Just want to point out this should only apply to PP mode. TOO offers Tandem and SBYSI options as it should and delivers to only one target

Edited January 2, 2020 by LastRifleRound

[foxwxl]

I think you misunderstand my post.

 

In a true quantity release, the LAR zone showed on the HSI in AUTO mode corresponds to every single station so a simultaneous release can be performed. The LAR zone in the HSI corresponds to the overlap of all targets in this mode, not just the active station.

 

I am aware multiple individual bombs can be programmed for different targets then released one by one. Auto mode is different.

 

QTY currently only selects the number of bombs to drop on one PP point, and maxes out at 2.

 

The JF17 in PP mode currently behaves like the Hornet in MAN mode, I was curious if JF17 had a mode similar to AUTO mode as described above.

 

I think U should understand that PAF own F-16Cs not the F-18s, and PAF do have some requirement that pilot from F16 can easy learn the JEFF. So the JF17 operate much like the F-16 not the F-18, and it do operate quite easier than F16A-MLU such like the BMS.

[foxwxl]

To add to this, the current LS6 implementation seems flawed, though I could be wrong.

 

Just tested this. 2 LS6 bombs, 2 different PP targets within a few hundred feet. No probem.

 

Set QTY to 2. Set impact azimuth for target 1 to 74 degrees, set impact azimuth to target 2 to 254 degrees. The system will show the LAR for the current bomb, yet it will still allow release of both bombs, even though at least one of the bombs has no chance of hitting its target. I released the bombs and sure enough, that is what occurred.

 

Of course, you can pre-step through your bombs to ensure you're in LAR for all of them, but this is very unlikely to be how it works on the real jet.

 

I believe if the QTY > 1, then the LAR should be the overlap of all bombs in QTY, or no LAR at all if overlap is not possible. Also, I was carrying 4 LS6's, but the max QTY possible was still 2. This may be an actual aircraft limitation, but just putting that out there.

 

EDIT: Just want to point out this should only apply to PP mode. TOO offers Tandem and SBYSI options as it should and delivers to only one target

 

Thanks for the report, will be looked into.

[LastRifleRound]

Right, but see my post after. LAR's should be combined for ease of use. I had a scenario where I had to bomb a factory complex, 2 specific buildings. In order to avoid hitting intervening structures, one bomb needed an azimuth of 105 deg, the other 30 deg. The LARS did overlap in a small section, but I had to keep toggling back and forth to figure out where I was, as a sudden heading change would have changed the LARS and necessitated 2 runs. That's why this feature exists in the FA18, and I'm sure it's in the F16 as well, I just don't have any documentation to that effect. This is also how it works in the AV8B Harrier, though the RAZBAM implementation only partially models it currently.

 

EDIT: Just saw your post. Thank you!

[foxwxl]

Right, but see my post after. LAR's should be combined for ease of use. I had a scenario where I had to bomb a factory complex, 2 specific buildings. In order to avoid hitting intervening structures, one bomb needed an azimuth of 105 deg, the other 30 deg. The LARS did overlap in a small section, but I had to keep toggling back and forth to figure out where I was, as a sudden heading change would have changed the LARS and necessitated 2 runs. That's why this feature exists in the FA18, and I'm sure it's in the F16 as well, I just don't have any documentation to that effect. This is also how it works in the AV8B Harrier, though the RAZBAM implementation only partially models it currently.

 

EDIT: Just saw your post. Thank you!

 

Already reported, the team will look into this. Thank U.:thumbup: