ZQuickSilverZ Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 https://www.amazon.com/S18-OpenTrack-Camera-TrackIR-Alternate/dp/B07P8HG3DW?tag=coa_us_g-20 Product description ★Head Tracking for PC Game ★Modified USB Webcam with IR LED Headphone Clip & TV Stand ★Ready to play games with head motion tracking ★Work with TrackHat OpenTrack and FaceTrackNoIR and FreeTrack Use For: PC combat flight and driving game, America Truck Sim, Euro Truck, War Thunder, FSX, ARMA3 ARMA2, DCS WORLD, PREPAR3D, etc.... PS3 EYE Camera Specification: 125 FPS at 350p 75 FPS at 680p (highest speed on the webcam market) 1.5 meter USB Cable Powered With TV stand and 180 rotating stand Manual focus turning Not working on TrackIR software Working on FreeTrack OpenTrack TrackHat OpenTrack and FaceTrackNoIr All new and ready to go when the driver for PS3 eye is installed The camera does not work with NatruePoint TrackIR system IR resistance lens in the webcam is removed, an IR filter was added into the webcam. The camera lens is replaced with other lenses IR Led Clip Specification: All new and ready to go 2 meter USB Cable Powered (5V 0.5A) With magic strap, easily attach to the headphone. System Required: Support PC up to Win 10 Win 8 and Win 10 only work with FaceTrackNoIR and TrackHat OpenTrack. I need, I need, I need... What about my wants? QuickSilver original. "Off with his job" Mr Burns on the Simpsons. "I've seen steering wheels / arcade sticks / flight sticks for over a hundred dollars; why be surprised at a 150 dollar item that includes the complexities of this controller?! It has BLINKY LIGHTS!!" author unknown. These titles are listed in the chronological order I purchased them. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Rudel_chw Posted January 4, 2020 Posted January 4, 2020 A quarter of its reviews were just a single star ... this other product is very similar, but less expensive and from a more reputable maker: https://delanengineering.com/products/head-tracking-delanclip-gamer/ For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
ZQuickSilverZ Posted January 5, 2020 Author Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) A quarter of its reviews were just a single star ... this other product is very similar, but less expensive and from a more reputable maker: https://delanengineering.com/products/head-tracking-delanclip-gamer/ OK I know why they are having that problem because I had the same issue. They need this driver which cost 2.99 USD. https://codelaboratories.com/products/eye/driver/ That being said them missing the driver does not make this a bad product though I admit it should have come with the purchase. I personally use a PS3 CAM with OpenTrack and I assure you it works as well or better than TrackIR. Also you pointed out that 25 percent gave it 1 star (which I assure you is due to the missing driver) but failed to mention that 45 percent gave it 5 stars. That is a bit disingenuous of you. There is also the issue of the company that you posted gave the price in pounds. So I am guessing it has to be imported for an American consumer. After the exchange rate and import cost I don't know that Delan would be much cheaper. Comment on that if you care to do so. Edited January 5, 2020 by ZQuickSilverZ I need, I need, I need... What about my wants? QuickSilver original. "Off with his job" Mr Burns on the Simpsons. "I've seen steering wheels / arcade sticks / flight sticks for over a hundred dollars; why be surprised at a 150 dollar item that includes the complexities of this controller?! It has BLINKY LIGHTS!!" author unknown. These titles are listed in the chronological order I purchased them. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
ZQuickSilverZ Posted January 5, 2020 Author Posted January 5, 2020 $52.30 USD for the Delan VS $59.92 for the S18 , so yeah by the time you add import cost I doubt the Delan is cheaper for American consumers. I need, I need, I need... What about my wants? QuickSilver original. "Off with his job" Mr Burns on the Simpsons. "I've seen steering wheels / arcade sticks / flight sticks for over a hundred dollars; why be surprised at a 150 dollar item that includes the complexities of this controller?! It has BLINKY LIGHTS!!" author unknown. These titles are listed in the chronological order I purchased them. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Rudel_chw Posted January 5, 2020 Posted January 5, 2020 DCS has a worldwide user base, so for many of us, having to pay taxes and shipping would be a fact for both alternatives. For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
Bob_Bushman Posted January 6, 2020 Posted January 6, 2020 Where I live, a track ir, any version is easily $300+, $200 using dodgy ebay sellers. I consider a rift-s for $500 a fairly good get. i7 8700k @ 4.7, 32GB 2900Mhz, 1080ti, CV1 Virpil MT-50\Delta, MFG Crosswind, Warthog Throttle, Virptil Mongoost-50 throttle.
Ranma13 Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 For the price it's no better than the TrackHat Clip kit (which is essentially the same product): https://www.trackhat.org/product-page/trackhat-clip-head-tracking-kit or the DelanClip Gamer: https://delanengineering.com/products/head-tracking-delanclip-gamer/ or any of the other no-name head tracking kits that you can pick up on eBay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Puck-Wireless-Head-Tracking-OpenTrack-Freetrack-TrackIR-alternative-SEE-VIDEO/164019395648?hash=item2630515c40:g:OTkAAOSwVYNeEB6u Not saying that it's worse, but there's also no reason to pick it over the other products and vice versa.
-0303- Posted January 7, 2020 Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) I got the DelanClip Gamer kit (£39.99 -> 52,67 USD). https://delanengineering.com/products/head-tracking-delanclip-gamer/ and the Strap Mount (£4.39 -> 5.78 USD) https://delanengineering.com/shop/Strap-Mount-for-DELANCLiP-p69711729 Shipping from UK not included. I used the DelanClip kit (PS3 camera + DelanClip) for a year and I would say the little metal frame is extremely sturdy (I've read similar plastic frames, not so much). With a head set or some other way to mount it, the Strap Mount isn't needed of course. I did not have to buy a driver software to make the camera work. I followed this guide: https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/34403-a-complete-guide-to-set-up-head-tracking-opentrack/ and this, I believe, was the driver software I had to download (but not pay for) For the PS3 Eye camera, you will need to install the CL-Eye Platform Drivers from Code Laboratories: https://mega.nz/#!QkAjnBwD!-ULu08uFwGK5hl7ugbFZfuAw2hIdFpwVtn-jewThrN8An important note of a small error in the Sturmovik guide. These menu settings (image below) are part of the OpenTrack software, they are not part of the CL-Eye Test software (as image erroneously suggest). OpenTrack menu is: PointTracker Settings -> Camera Settings These particular settings, especially gain / exposure are of a make-or-break character. With them set Tracking works almost out of the box (plus weeks of tweaking, not just curves, also threshold and other ... stuff). Without gain/exposure set as indicated, Tracking essentially doesn't work at all (dots are fuzzy and whole image full of artifacts. Gain needs minimized and exposure needs maxing out. After that there's three dots with zero background noise. Higher sampling setting 125 fps (320x240 res) works better than 60 fps (640x480) IMHO. I did read a lot of reading opinions reviews and found the opinion (by some at least) that the PS3 camera + clip solution is just as good as the more than 5x more expensive TrackIr https://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/trackir5/ Edited January 7, 2020 by -0303- Intel Core i7 3630QM @ 2.40GHz (Max Turbo Frequency 3.40 GHz) | 16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz | 2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GT 635M | 447GB KINGSTON SA400S37480G (SATA-2 (SSD))
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