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DCS has freezes that last sometimes over 5 minutes, then game resumes. No crash log produced. Both in VR and TIR. New parts in computer, nothing helps.

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My Dell Visor would work in DCS great, and I started having issues with freezes that would make the game dark, and then have WMR waiting, eventually recovering. First step was to replace my VR headset. Next step was an odyssey+, but it didn't solve the issue.. Sometimes it was associated with the boink-sound of USB reconnecting. So I started fixes. I got a USB 3.0 PCI addon, to make sure I am not running out of power. Sometimes in Mixed Reality Portal, it would show the headset as asleep, and the button to wake up was right there. Hitting the button does notthing, it won't wake up. Maybe it wasn't getting power. Anyway, PCI UBS hub didn't help.

 

Maybe it was VR? I tried switching to TIR, to no avail. Game still has multi-minute freezes occasionally. No crash logs produced, because the game isn't crashing. I can hear the voice in the background, and Jester occasionally, too. The game is just freezing, at random intervals, for couple minutes with no screen movement at all, and then it resumes like no biggie.

 

I bought new RAM, I got a new graphics card as a RTX 2080, I reinstalled windows. I installed game on new SSD. I got a new monitor with native Display Port. I kept my control files. Recently I reinstalled game once again, removed all registry entries and did a complete reintall, including control files.

 

I have 6700k, 32gb RAM 3000mhz, RTX 2080 super, and I use two monitors besides my HMD, other at 3440x1440 and other at 1920x1080.

 

UPDATE: now I have a 9600K and a 9th gen mobo. No original parts remain from the computer when this problem first arose, just to make sure it is nothing related to my hardware.

 

I have Saitek Combat Pedals, TM Warthog.

 

 

I do not use USB extension, I connect HMD's hdmi to the only hdmi on the GPU. I am at a loss. I can't fly flight sims, and I have drowned thousands at this point in fixing this issue, yet with no relief.

 

 

 

It doesn't generate a crash log, but something appears on the game log itself. The freeze was at around 1943, and the game resumed around 1947.

 

 

2020-01-10 19:40:21.538 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: InstanceManager2::updateObjectDeclBuffer()

2020-01-10 19:40:21.538 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: InstanceManager2::updateObjectLodDeclBuffer()

2020-01-10 19:40:33.233 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: surface5 gc() LOD 0 129 squares

2020-01-10 19:40:33.235 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: surface5 gc() LOD 1 133 squares

2020-01-10 19:40:33.235 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: surface5 gc() 5.121500 ms

2020-01-10 19:40:33.240 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: forestDistanceFactor has been changed to 1.000000. Update lod buffers.

2020-01-10 19:40:33.241 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: InstanceManager2::updateObjectDeclBuffer()

2020-01-10 19:40:33.241 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: InstanceManager2::updateObjectLodDeclBuffer()

2020-01-10 19:40:42.715 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: surface5 gc() LOD 0 3 squares

2020-01-10 19:40:42.715 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: surface5 gc() LOD 1 3 squares

2020-01-10 19:40:42.715 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: surface5 gc() 0.390800 ms

2020-01-10 19:40:42.729 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: forestDistanceFactor has been changed to 0.690000. Update lod buffers.

2020-01-10 19:40:42.729 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: InstanceManager2::updateObjectDeclBuffer()

2020-01-10 19:40:42.729 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: InstanceManager2::updateObjectLodDeclBuffer()

2020-01-10 19:41:59.709 INFO DX11BACKEND: Unloaded 33 mb of textures.

2020-01-10 19:42:12.195 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: forestDistanceFactor has been changed to 1.000000. Update lod buffers.

2020-01-10 19:42:12.195 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: InstanceManager2::updateObjectDeclBuffer()

2020-01-10 19:42:12.195 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: InstanceManager2::updateObjectLodDeclBuffer()

2020-01-10 19:42:13.654 ERROR WORLDGENERAL: waParts f-14b_damageparts_stabilizer (//models/f-14b_damageparts_stabilizer.edm): box is invalid, skip render

2020-01-10 19:42:14.270 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: forestDistanceFactor has been changed to 0.690000. Update lod buffers.

2020-01-10 19:42:14.270 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: InstanceManager2::updateObjectDeclBuffer()

2020-01-10 19:42:14.270 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: InstanceManager2::updateObjectLodDeclBuffer()

2020-01-10 19:42:15.589 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: forestDistanceFactor has been changed to 1.000000. Update lod buffers.

2020-01-10 19:42:15.590 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: InstanceManager2::updateObjectDeclBuffer()

2020-01-10 19:42:15.590 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: InstanceManager2::updateObjectLodDeclBuffer()

2020-01-10 19:42:19.037 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: forestDistanceFactor has been changed to 0.690000. Update lod buffers.

2020-01-10 19:42:19.037 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: InstanceManager2::updateObjectDeclBuffer()

2020-01-10 19:42:19.037 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: InstanceManager2::updateObjectLodDeclBuffer()

2020-01-10 19:42:20.905 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: forestDistanceFactor has been changed to 1.000000. Update lod buffers.

2020-01-10 19:42:20.905 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: InstanceManager2::updateObjectDeclBuffer()

2020-01-10 19:42:20.905 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: InstanceManager2::updateObjectLodDeclBuffer()

2020-01-10 19:43:18.293 WARNING Mission: register_unit(7654,18145025) : db.units['7654'] table is missing

2020-01-10 19:43:18.376 WARNING Mission: register_unit(7655,18145281) : db.units['7655'] table is missing

2020-01-10 19:43:18.468 WARNING Mission: register_unit(7656,18145537) : db.units['7656'] table is missing

2020-01-10 19:43:18.475 WARNING Mission: register_unit(7657,18145793) : db.units['7657'] table is missing

2020-01-10 19:43:18.476 WARNING Mission: register_unit(7658,18146049) : db.units['7658'] table is missing

2020-01-10 19:43:18.476 WARNING Mission: register_unit(7659,18146305) : db.units['7659'] table is missing

2020-01-10 19:43:18.477 WARNING Mission: register_unit(7660,18146561) : db.units['7660'] table is missing

2020-01-10 19:43:18.477 WARNING Mission: register_unit(7661,18146817) : db.units['7661'] table is missing

2020-01-10 19:43:18.477 WARNING Mission: register_unit(7662,18147073) : db.units['7662'] table is missing

2020-01-10 19:43:59.708 INFO DX11BACKEND: Unloaded 578 mb of textures.

2020-01-10 19:44:18.462 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: forestDistanceFactor has been changed to 0.690000. Update lod buffers.

2020-01-10 19:44:18.463 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: InstanceManager2::updateObjectDeclBuffer()

2020-01-10 19:44:18.463 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: InstanceManager2::updateObjectLodDeclBuffer()

2020-01-10 19:44:28.528 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: forestDistanceFactor has been changed to 1.000000. Update lod buffers.

2020-01-10 19:44:28.528 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: InstanceManager2::updateObjectDeclBuffer()

2020-01-10 19:44:28.529 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: InstanceManager2::updateObjectLodDeclBuffer()

2020-01-10 19:44:38.632 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: forestDistanceFactor has been changed to 0.690000. Update lod buffers.

2020-01-10 19:44:38.632 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: InstanceManager2::updateObjectDeclBuffer()

2020-01-10 19:44:38.632 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: InstanceManager2::updateObjectLodDeclBuffer()

2020-01-10 19:47:31.122 WARNING Mission: register_unit(7663,18154497) : db.units['7663'] table is missing

2020-01-10 19:47:31.125 WARNING Mission: register_unit(7664,18154753) : db.units['7664'] table is missing

2020-01-10 19:47:31.891 WARNING Mission: register_unit(7665,18160385) : db.units['7665'] table is missing

2020-01-10 19:47:31.892 WARNING Mission: register_unit(7666,18160641) : db.units['7666'] table is missing

2020-01-10 19:47:32.252 ERROR GRAPHICSVISTA: Can't open model F-16C_oblomok_wing_R.

2020-01-10 19:47:32.253 ERROR GRAPHICSVISTA: Can't open model F-16C_oblomok_wing_L.

2020-01-10 19:47:32.286 ERROR EDCORE: Can't open file: /textures/liveries/jf-17/gloriator hi viz beta/description.lua.

2020-01-10 19:47:54.091 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: surface5 gc() LOD 0 306 squares

2020-01-10 19:47:54.100 INFO EDTERRAINGRAPHICS41: surface5 gc() LOD 1 390 squares

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Hi

 

please attach your whole dcs log when the freeze happens so we can look for clues.

 

you can change the log from a .log to a .txt and you can attach it so you dont have to paste it.

 

Thanks

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Thanks

 

Is your NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER overclocked?

 

Do you notice any windows system warnings in event viewer when the crash happens?

 

The attached log does not seem to show the issue, the log closes correctly.

 

thanks

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The 2080 is not overclocked. I used a GTX1070 before, and had the same issue, also.

 

 

This seems to line up for the duration of the freeze.

 

 

Fault bucket , type 0

Event Name: AppHangTransient

Response: Not available

Cab Id: 0

 

Problem signature:

P1: DCS.exe

P2: 2.5.5.41371

P3: 5dfbe69d

P4: unknown

P5: unknown

P6: unknown

P7: unknown

P8:

P9:

P10:

 

Attached files:

\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERB66D.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml

\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERB67E.tmp.xml

\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERB67D.tmp.csv

\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERB68E.tmp.txt

 

These files may be available here:

 

 

Analysis symbol:

Rechecking for solution: 0

Report Id: 8a06119b-1bea-4c61-96b8-adcc8e7c9d3e

Report Status: 2049

Hashed bucket:

Cab Guid: 0

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I am not sure what is causing the Hang, but take a look here it maybe related

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=232712

 

also it maybe worth trying a different hard drive if you have one.

 

thanks

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Vähäkylä

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I have tried the game on two different SSDs.

 

At this point I have spent thousands on updating every single piece of hardware I own so that I can fly DCS. Yet, I can't. And the problem could be a part of an unknown problem experience by many users, with no known solution.

 

Pretty damn depressing idea.

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If you have not already please contact support directly they maybe able to assist further

 

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/support/

 

Thank you

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I figured out the problem. You have to go to Windows MR dev settings and headset settings, and disable "pause simulation on freeze" and other similar options that make the game freeze when headset has hiccups. This happens even when headset is unplugged, as long as WMR apps remain installed.

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I figured out the problem. You have to go to Windows MR dev settings and headset settings, and disable "pause simulation on freeze" and other similar options that make the game freeze when headset has hiccups. This happens even when headset is unplugged, as long as WMR apps remain installed.

 

Thank you for letting us know. :thumbup:

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