T.A.R.G.E.T. software required?

[crankcasy]

Is T.A.R.G.E.T.software still required to load profiles for the Hotas Warthog?

:helpsmilie:

[Yeti42]

You only need TARGET if you want to program macros. Normal control mapping and loading/saving profiles from within game works without it. I don't use TARGET as I find it buggy

[lxsapper]

TARGET does have a few kwirk's and sometimes even crashes, but I've never had one in game with the profile loaded, it's more usual in windows when trying things out. If I had it happen in a serious multi-player session, I'd probably be seriously pissed and start wondering my choices.

But ATM I very satisfied with it, I was very outspoken against it because ok the 32DX limitation, but now that I've found the 128 "hack" I'm really happy, I keep most of my assignments DX, but I use TARGET to do some neat things, get past software limitations/omissions both DCS and others like TrackIR for example. I also use it to perfectly Integrate my SRS comm switches with DCS comm switchs.

You can do most of that with something less me joy2key or RSmapper. But you'd need Joystick Gremlin to compensate for DCS grave omission to be able to match Physical AB detents with in Sim ones. And no user curves don't count they are a sucky way to try and compensate for what's missing.

[SGT Coyle]

I haven't had TARGET crash in a long time. I found it wasn't TARGET crashing, but windows USB power settings bugging it to death.

 

 

What Module you flying?

[crankcasy]

Thanks for the reply I think I will uninstall it, I have had a lot of trouble trying to Run configuration without it crashing.

I haven't used DCS for over a year but I have a new computer and VR setup to play with. The Module I'm trying to setup is the A-10C with NOiD's device profile.

[Bobik2002]

It working good when you know how set it up I have all binds done in TARGET and I'm happy with it.

[Ant0ine]

Is T.A.R.G.E.T.software still required to load profiles for the Hotas Warthog?

:helpsmilie:

 

If you want to load a Target profile then yes.

However to load a "DCS mapping" you do not need it. I mean the stuff saved in C:\Users\UserName\Saved Games\DCS\Config\Input\...

 

BUT, if the people sharing their mapping are using Target then yes you'll need to run both their Target profile and their mapping file in order to use their configuration.

 

You have the Warthog, so Target or another similar program is also required if you want to make proper use of the toggle switch on the throttle. At least for the module that doesn't support them directly. Afaik only the A10C module does it. But I wouldn't be surprised if ED did something for the F18 and the F16 as well.

 

In short the problem is that without Target, we can not map the OFF position of our Warthog Throttle toggle switch. So for exemple if you want to map the RDR ALTM toggle to the F18 Baro/RDR Altitude Switch then you can't do it properly. The game provide all the option needed :

But our RDR ALTM toggle only send a signal when we flip it Up. And not Down. So someone not using Target would have to map the cycle Baro/RDR to the up position. And to use it one would have to flip the switch up, then next time down, and up again. :doh:

 

Using Target we can map both the ON and OFF position of the switch and so no problem. For exemple :

 

//RDR ALTM

MapKey(&Throttle, RDRNRM, PULSE+DX62);

MapKey(&Throttle, RDRDIS, PULSE+DX61);

 

[...]But you'd need Joystick Gremlin to compensate for DCS grave omission to be able to match Physical AB detents with in Sim ones. And no user curves don't count they are a sucky way to try and compensate for what's missing.[...]

 

+1 :thumbup:

You could also solve the Warthog toggle switch "issue" using Joystick Gremlin. Exemple here :

First macro for the up position, second macro for the down position.

 

I made a little post to explain how to make physical detent match with virtual detent, here it is. You could do the same stuff using Target Script Editor.

Edited February 26, 2020 by Ant0ine

[SGT Coyle]

TARGET 3-Way Sitch

 

In short the problem is that without Target, we can not map the OFF position of our Warthog Throttle toggle switch. So for exemple if you want to map the RDR ALTM toggle to the F18 Baro/RDR Altitude Switch then you can't do it properly. The game provide all the option needed :

But our RDR ALTM toggle only send a signal when we flip it Up. And not Down. So someone not using Target would have to map the cycle Baro/RDR to the up position. And to use it one would have to flip the switch up, then next time down, and up again.

 

Using Target we can map both the ON and OFF position of the switch and so no problem. For exemple :

//RDR ALTM

MapKey(&Throttle, RDRNRM, PULSE+DX62);

MapKey(&Throttle, RDRDIS, PULSE+DX61);

You can assign the OFF position of any switch on the TMWH by use of the MapKeyR(Release); function.

I'll use the example given above and achieve a desirable result by use of the TMWH Auto Pilot 3-way Switch:

//Autopilot Select Switch  --  Physical switch as RDR Altimeter 3-way Switch
MapKey(&Throttle[color=#ffffff],[/color]APPAT, PULSE + [i]Altitude_Switch_Baro[/i]);   // Baro 
[b]MapKeyR[/b](&Throttle[color=#ffffff],[/color]APPAT, PULSE +[i]Altitude_Switch_Baro[/i]);// [b]Baro/RDR[/b]

[b]MapKeyR[/b](&Throttle[color=#ffffff],[/color]APALT, PULSE +[i]Altitude_Switch_RDR[/i]);//  [b]Baro/RDR[/b]
MapKey(&Throttle[color=#ffffff],[/color]APALT, PULSE + [i]Altitude_Switch_RDR[/i]);   //  RDR

This is how I map a three way toggle switch with the MapKeyR function. By just mapping the on/off positions of the physical switch, I get a three way switch working in the game.

Edited February 26, 2020 by SGT Coyle

[lxsapper]

Ant0ine said that you can'tWithout TARGET. Which is more or less correct. You could mess with DCS .lua

 

Also you don't Have to program that with MapKeyR, it is usefull in some circustances, but on that particular one, you could just use TARGET discrete calls for switches OFF positions:

 

MapKey(&Throttle,APPAT, PULSE + Altitude_Switch_Baro); // Baro

MapKey(&Throttle,APAH, PULSE +Altitude_Switch_Baro);// Baro/RDR

MapKey(&Throttle,APALT, PULSE + Altitude_Switch_RDR); // RDR