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When TF-51 on fire but player alive + aircraft not destroyed, only "Exit" radio menu.

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When the entire radio menu should appear, only "F12. Exit" appears under "Main" radio menu. (happened twice already)

DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart

PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013

DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.)

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Even if it's damaged "beyond repair", the F10 menu (mission-creator scripts) should be accessible

DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart

PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013

DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.)

Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence

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no, most scripts to not allow players to access the menus when destroyed. Opens up ability to exploit.

how's that an exploit if pilot still lives...

DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart

PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013

DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.)

Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence

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Not destroyed, heavily damaged. Destroyed would mean that the cockpit is the only thing left, with everything else having broken off.

Why should we not be able to CTLD with the plane being heavily damaged?

DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart

PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013

DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.)

Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence

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Not destroyed, heavily damaged. Destroyed would mean that the cockpit is the only thing left, with everything else having broken off.

Why should we not be able to CTLD with the plane being heavily damaged?

 

 

It wasn't heavily damaged, it was destroyed because you could not access any menu. DCS does not differentiate between destroyed aircraft with a live or dead pilot. Once destroyed (whether or not the pilot lived), you cannot interact with any menus. The loss counts against you, and if there were kill messages on the server it would show up. TAC commander can see a damaged friendly plane but cannot see a friendly destroyed plane because it is essentially removed.

 

 

 

Again this is to eliminate any exploits.

 

 

 

If you want to use CTLD, don't crash your plane so bad it gets set on fire!

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DCS does not differentiate between destroyed aircraft with a live or dead pilot.

 

omg, okay. wow.

DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart

PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013

DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.)

Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence

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omg, okay. wow.

why is that so shocking? It's been like this since day one!

 

I should expand on that and mention Multiplayer.

 

 

 

In single player campaigns you actually have to survive to continue.

 

 

 

In MP if your plane is destroyed, you get a loss counted against you and the person who shot you down gets the kill credit (regardless of if you ejected or survived the crash).

 

 

Either way, if you survive a crash that destroyed your plane, you cannot interact with the menus.

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In MP if your plane is destroyed, you get a loss counted against you and the person who shot you down gets the kill credit (regardless of if you ejected or survived the crash).

interesting, I never thought about it, what we need in MP now, is the "Loss" column in the score chart to be changed to "Airframe loss" and an additional new column "pilot deaths"

DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart

PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013

DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.)

Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence

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what we need in MP now, is the "Loss" column in the score chart to be changed to "Airframe loss" and an additional new column "pilot deaths"

 

 

But why ? It would make no difference. It's about the number of bogeys you shoot down, not about how many pilots you kill.

 

Historically when pilots put kill decals on their planes (from WWII to modern) they only put the number of planes destroyed. You could have shot the same pilot 3 during the war... it doesn't matter. You still get 3 kill credits.

 

 

 

No need to add pilot deaths as it is completely irrelevant.

 

 

 

 

interesting, I never thought about it,

Yes it's one of the problems you seem to have when posting in the bug sections when there are not bugs at all.

 

In just the past week you posted no less than 6 "bug reports" that are not even bugs at all!


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But why ? It would make no difference. It's about the number of bogeys you shoot down, not about how many pilots you kill.

 

 

It is, on servers where CSAR script is enabled and pilots can be rescued... And also shows ejection-proficiency of pilots. (Some pilots eject to late/not at all and die anyways)

DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart

PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013

DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.)

Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence

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Still bugged

DCS Wishlist: 2K11 Krug SA-4 Ganef SAM, VR-TrackIR icons next to player names in score-chart

PvP: 100+ manual player-kills with Stingers on a well known dynamic campaign server - 100+ VTOL FARP landings & 125+ hours AV-8B, F-14 crew, royal dutch airforce F-16C - PvP campaigns since 2013

DCS server-admins: please adhere to a common sense gaming industry policy as most server admins throughout the industry do. (After all there's enough hostility on the internet already which really doesn't help anyone. Thanks.)

Dell Visor VR headset, Ryzen 5 5600 (6C/12T), RTX 2060 - basic DCS-community rule-of-thumb: Don't believe bad things that a PvP pilot claims about another PvP pilot without having analyzed the existing evidence

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This discussed here too:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4331013&postcount=3

link: the post of a track replaying the issue in singleplayer.

 

There was MP cases I bring back my damaged plane to airfield,

once my damaged Su-27 to Dubai in one piece, structure complete and without gear damage.

And I was not able to repair because of the menu contained only EXIT.

 

Very sad when we cant help to fellow player to navigate back to a friendly airfield because he disappeared from the F10 map. I bet when this happen LOTATC operator cannot help too.

GTX 1070 8GB, 16GB DDR3, W8.1 on SSD, DCS on another SSD

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